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Americans are playing poker online? Oh, the humanity!
Las Vegas Review-Journal ^ | 10/13/06 | Las Vegas Review-Journal

Posted on 10/13/2006 5:03:36 PM PDT by KDD

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To: robertpaulsen
Hold the spouse and the children liable

Scuse me, no attainder of blood

101 posted on 10/14/2006 6:13:46 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: robertpaulsen
Hold the spouse and the children liable

no CORRUPTION of blood

102 posted on 10/14/2006 6:14:23 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I imagine a lot of HiTech RedNecks will be looking into means to get around this law.


103 posted on 10/14/2006 6:17:50 AM PDT by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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To: KDD
"Almost all American credit card companies stopped allowing credit charges to offshore casinos a couple of years ago..."

Nothing to stop cash advances. Nothing to stop people from charging their groceries and gas and using their cash for gambling. Equity loans, second mortgage, lines of credit, borrowing against assets -- bankruptcy due to gambling drives up interest rates on all these, and that affects ME.

"Read up on them...Your fears are groundless."

I have read them. My fears are real.

The Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005 is an improvement, but not a cure-all. Treat loans as you would money due the IRS. Start enforcing usury laws and cap credit card interest -- the CC companies will then be forced to clean up their own house, rather than issuing a card to everything with a pulse, including pets.

104 posted on 10/14/2006 6:51:07 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"This oughtta be called the National Internet Gambling Authorization Act."

The NAACP will oppose it on the acronym alone.

105 posted on 10/14/2006 6:52:55 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"Scuse me, no attainder of blood"

There used to be. I'm saying bring it back.

If a drug dealer is using his $2 million house to distribute drugs, he loses it via asset forfeiture. That affects his wife and kids -- an attainder(corruption) of blood.

I'm saying do the same for owed money. Seize the house to pay debts. Why should we finance someone's get-rich-quick scheme?

106 posted on 10/14/2006 7:06:49 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Equity loans, second mortgage, lines of credit, borrowing against assets -- bankruptcy due to gambling drives up interest rates on all these, and that affects ME.

That's between you and your bank. If they're having to stick it to you to make up for their bad decisions, find one that makes better decisions. You seem to think there should be a federal regulation and bureaucracy to fix every problem in your life.

107 posted on 10/14/2006 7:09:15 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: KDD

I just wish they would extend the ban to fantasy baseball and football. I've lost about $100 over the past 7 years gambling my chewing gum budget away on botched drafts and trades. Please Republican-controlled Congress! Save me!!!


108 posted on 10/14/2006 7:19:19 AM PDT by mikemc282002 (Blood, toil, sweat, and tears.....Not Schumer, Clinton, Kerry and Kennedy.)
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To: tacticalogic
"You seem to think there should be a federal regulation and bureaucracy to fix every problem in your life."

You're the one who wants federal protections for gamblers so there are no consequences for their reckless and immature behavior.

Figures. You want the same safety net for drug users, too. Socialist.

109 posted on 10/14/2006 7:25:55 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
You're the one who wants federal protections for gamblers so there are no consequences for their reckless and immature behavior.

Figures. You want the same safety net for drug users, too. Socialist.

You're a career federal bureaucrat, aren't you?

110 posted on 10/14/2006 7:28:33 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
"You're a career federal bureaucrat, aren't you?"

Ah! So we're playing, "Let's guess careers"?

Well then, based on your past postings, I'll guess that you're an unemployed, 17-year-old dope-smoking anarchist, interested only in self pleasure and the freedom to attain it, looking only to society to take care of you when you screw up.

Pretty close?

111 posted on 10/14/2006 7:41:35 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

I'll bet I'm closer than you are. You in?


112 posted on 10/14/2006 7:44:15 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
I'll bet I'm closer than you are. You in?

Can I be "in"?

Here we have advocated a socialistic prohibition on gambling because it drives up interest rates on equity loans, second mortgage, lines of credit, & borrowing against assets; and bringing back an "attainder of blood" via asset forfeiture.

Yet you are the one being accused of socialism? -- Of wanting society to take care of you?

Bizarre reasoning, as usual, typical of communitarian thinking.

113 posted on 10/14/2006 11:19:02 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine

Seems pretty bizarre to me, too. Maybe it looks different on the other end of the tax money pipeline.


114 posted on 10/14/2006 1:41:35 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Jorge
I love casinos but have no desire to gamble online.

I don't gamble on line for I have my own machines and when I run out of money I open the machine, take my coins back, and start over again. ; )

115 posted on 10/14/2006 2:01:54 PM PDT by EGPWS (Lord help me be the conservative liberals fear I am.)
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To: KDD
Are you sure about sports exemption? I'm still playing football at my site, but I fear the Internet bill will pull the plug on me soon.
116 posted on 10/14/2006 2:18:27 PM PDT by caresistance
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To: tacticalogic
When scriptures get used as platitudes things get weird.

Guess that depends on your opinion of God's Word.

117 posted on 10/14/2006 7:40:24 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Prokopton
Morality is about freely doing what God wants not about being coerced to do what the government wants.

Who told you this?

Some people think it's ok to murder and steal regardless of what God says.

The idea we should not have govt enforce basic standards of morality is insane.

118 posted on 10/14/2006 7:43:37 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: MitchellC
Of course not, and if you'd read my post more carefully you'd understand that I was arguing just the opposite.

Sorry if I misread your post.

119 posted on 10/14/2006 7:45:36 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
Still I've seen gambling ruin people's life and can't help but believe internet gambling would take this destructive potential to the nth.


You are 100% right! My husband has a lifelong friend who unfortunately loves to gamble. It is a really big problem with him. He goes down to Atlantic City, bets with bookies, and of course, gambles on the Internet. Well he did until he had all of his credit cards overdrawn and his bank account overdrawn as well. Which honestly he probably accomplished in about one night. Online gambling is absolutely ridiculous, there are so many sites that allow you to bet on all the sports event, play poker, Texas hold em', black jack, you name it, you can place a wager on it! It's a sin! We don't gamble in my home. My husband works to hard for his money. And I watch his idiot friend get himself in too much trouble loosing all the money he doesn't even have gambling his!
120 posted on 10/14/2006 8:16:37 PM PDT by reillygirl246
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To: reillygirl246
Thank you! I've seen gambling ruin lives of my friends as well. In Atlantic City no less.

It's just insane to make online gambling legal.

121 posted on 10/14/2006 8:21:34 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
Guess that depends on your opinion of God's Word.

Then that makes it a theological debate, and the thread needs to be moved to Religion.

122 posted on 10/15/2006 6:17:30 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic; Jorge
Jorge:

The idea we should not have govt enforce basic standards of morality is insane.
God has given authority to world govts to enforce laws.

Tacticalogic:
That would make the patriots of the American Revolution acting against God.

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Well put TL.. -- Obviously, giving governments the power to enforce basic standards of 'morality' is insane, as 'gov't morality' is a contradiction in terms.

123 posted on 10/15/2006 10:43:54 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1719978/posts


124 posted on 10/15/2006 5:51:21 PM PDT by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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