[nmh]

"Darwinism is in retreat. The secularists are running."

Very true!

Watch how nasty evolutionists get on this thread. For THEM, evolution is THEIR RELIGION. Never mind that there is NO, absolutely NO evidence to support their HYPOTHESIS. Yes, hypothesis. It's not even a theory by their OWN definition of a theory. Yet that doesn't stop them from touting it now as a "fact". It only goes to show just how far they are removed from reality. Evolutionists live in a fanatical dream world supported by JUNK science.

[Coyoteman]

Watch how nasty evolutionists get on this thread.

We're tarred and feathered before the battle is even begun. That's not very nice.

For THEM, evolution is THEIR RELIGION.

Actually, no. Evolution is a theory, one of many in science. I can prove its not a RELIGION: I did six years of grad school, with many courses in evolution and related subjects. Not once did they pass the collection plate!

Never mind that there is NO, absolutely NO evidence to support their HYPOTHESIS. Yes, hypothesis.

There are entire floors in libraries devoted to the evidence supporting the theory of evolution. As one tiny example, check out the articles in the latest issue of American Journal of Physical Anthropology. And that is only one of many journals. Your statement about no evidence is clearly incorrect. As for the theory of evolution being a hypothesis, don't you think scientists who actually study the field are more qualified to judge this than rank amateurs who read creationist websites and Jack Chick comics?

It's not even a theory by their OWN definition of a theory. Yet that doesn't stop them from touting it now as a "fact".

The theory of evolution meets all the criteria for a theory. It is also a fact that critters change from generation to generation. That fact is called evolution (as opposed to the theory of evolution, which explains the facts).

It only goes to show just how far they are removed from reality.

Sorry, no. (Its amusing to hear those who follow ancient mythical stories criticize scientists who deal in the verifiable facts of the natural sciences.)

Evolutionists live in a fanatical dream world supported by JUNK science.

Sorry, no again. Perhaps you should let scientists judge what is and is not science. They have the training and education for it.

[Ichneumon]

Never mind that there is NO, absolutely NO evidence to support their HYPOTHESIS. Yes, hypothesis.

Don't you get tired of just outright lying all the time? You have been shown huge amounts of this evidence you claim doesn't exist, by many people many times, including for example by myself here, here, here, and here, to name just a few.

And yet you keep coming back falsely claiming that there is "NO, absolutely NO evidence" to support evolutionary biology, pretending that you've never before been presented with huge amounts of that very evidence. Don't you know that there's a Commandment against bearing false witness?

Can someone explain to me why the anti-evolutionist kooks are such shameless liars? I just don't get it.

[thomaswest]

re 79: how nasty evolutionists get on this thread....Evolutionists live in a fanatical dream world supported by JUNK science.

I disagree that we nasty "evilutionists" get on these threads merely to give you heartburn.

But I think you raise a good question. Why does anyone spend time in debating points that will not change many opinions? I note that over the last years, several IDists have left to accept evolution. I am unaware of any evolutionists who left to become IDists. No matter, these are meagre numbers.

Everybody who posts could have more fun making love or looking out at the sunset (just had a spectacular one here--and it increases my admiration for natural processes and encourages me that unnatural or "super"-natural 'explanations' are less beautiful).

Maybe there is an element of self-identity or a concern that our outlook on the world needs to be validated?

To me, evolution is a beautiful way of understanding how nature works and how we got here. For creationists, some kind of "divine" action seems to them most beautiful.

I am missing something in understanding. Any ideas?

[Jaguarbhzrd]

You do realize that ID accepts Evolution, ID states that evolution did indeed happen, but that some small microscopic creatures cannot be explained because of irreducible complexity.

You do realize this, do you not?

If not, perhaps you should unhitch your little creationist wagon from it.