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Report: N. Korean Leader Regrets Test
breitbart.com ^ | oct 19, 2006 | breitbart.com

Posted on 10/19/2006 8:16:01 PM PDT by blogblogginaway

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To: GoLightly
"Getting Washington to back off from economically isolating NK kinda looks like China told NK that American pressure was going to work if NK didn't quit dinking around"

Maybe, but I think that China began to fear the monster they created, and realized that if they don't get tough, and really mean it, that North Korea's one million man army, backed with modern equipment and nuclear bombs, would perhaps in the near future, (after they built up their nuclear arsenal) decide to take China on and stretch their border.

The bottom line though, is that China got tough and NK responded. America spoke tough and NK called our bluff. This is the embarrassing part of the equation, and it shows Iran and other enemies that we lack a serious political will to use the weapons we have at our disposal, and to back up what we say. Conquering Iraq and Afghanistan is great, but until we topple the government of our far more dangerous enemy, Iran, and begin seizing some N. Korean ships suspected of carrying banned cargo and the like, we will be viewed as a paper tiger.

121 posted on 10/20/2006 8:41:09 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: bust

We'll look just fine when we kick his ass in a couple years.


122 posted on 10/20/2006 8:43:07 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: unspun
"Quiz question: The president of what country has been pushing China to pressure North Korea about all this?"

Answer: the same president who allowed N. Korea to continue building a nuclear arsenal and detonate a test nuke, and who went to the U.N., (of all places), to ask for a wrist slap on North Korea, and then begged China to stop NK from detonating yet another nuke because he felt the cost of stopping NK himself would be too expensive politically and militarily.

As for China's alleged 'reigning in' of North Korea, do you really think it will be lasting, or even that it's real? So I have a quiz question for you:
"What would have been better, the U.S. bombing North Korea's nuclear arsenal and setting them back at least ten years or more, or China "talking" with their Communist friends in private and claiming that they have 'sovled' the problem?"

123 posted on 10/20/2006 8:51:28 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: maine-iac7
"Condi hasn't been toasting champaign with the little madman - she carries a big stick from Washington..."

Oh sure; here is Condi's "big stick".
Condoleeza Rice: "I don't know what more North Korea wants, the President has guarenteed them that he won't attack or invade them".
Condi's other "big stick": "We are going to the U.N. Security Council over this, and we're going to ask for strong sanctions, including the stopping of shipping luxury items to NK".

When did the euphemism "big stick" come to mean "politically correct passiveness"?

124 posted on 10/20/2006 8:58:23 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: Nathan Zachary
"This is just pure spin. "

What surprised me is that in this thread it appears to be FReepers who are parroting the spin ... I don't normally expect that here ...
125 posted on 10/20/2006 9:02:13 AM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RS
"I must be looking at a different article...."

Here is the quote from the article, indicating that China has pressured NK into submission with threats of serious economic consequences, (unlike those the U.S. signed on for with the U.N.).

"China is viewed as a key nation in efforts to 'persuade' the North to disarm, as it is the isolated communist nation's main trading partner.", (empahsis mine).

126 posted on 10/20/2006 9:05:28 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: TheCrusader
"What would have been better, the U.S. bombing North Korea's nuclear arsenal and setting them back at least ten years or more, or China "talking" with their Communist friends in private and claiming that they have 'sovled' the problem?"

The latter, so far.

127 posted on 10/20/2006 9:06:39 AM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: TheCrusader

"North Korea's one million man army, backed with modern equipment and nuclear bombs, would perhaps in the near future, (after they built up their nuclear arsenal) decide to take China on and stretch their border."

You aren't serious are you ?
Just where would this "modern equipment" come from ?
Just how do they transport this million man army without the oil from China ... besides walking ?


128 posted on 10/20/2006 9:19:46 AM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: TheCrusader

LOL ---

"China is viewed as a key nation in efforts to persuade the North to disarm ..."

translates into

"China has pressured NK into submission with threats .."

?


129 posted on 10/20/2006 9:23:12 AM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: MaineVoter2002
I agree. It makes China look like the new superpower of the world.

I disagree. It makes the Chicoms look like there are scared to death that Japan would go nuclear. The US comes off looking like it made China get control of the little runt out of fear that the US would allow Japan and SK to go nuke.

130 posted on 10/20/2006 9:34:20 AM PDT by Go Gordon (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet its hard to pronounce)
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To: RS
What surprised me is that in this thread it appears to be FReepers who are parroting the spin ... I don't normally expect that here ...

unfortunately, it does so appear - across the threads. It's discouraging - have the serious Freepers been falling away because the discourse has been 'disintegrating'? or is FR being infiltrated? a combination?

There used to be a majority of posts seemed more in depth and informed - not just shoot off the mouth missiles...?

131 posted on 10/20/2006 11:06:25 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: Go Gordon

The only problem with that analysis is that I don't believe there are many, if any, targets in North Korea that would be "nuke-worthy" in any case.
It would be like Clinton using cruise missiles to take out tents and camels.


132 posted on 10/20/2006 1:01:05 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RS
I don't believe there are many, if any, targets in North Korea

Clarification: By SK and Japan going nuke, I meant they would become nations with nukes. The perceived threat from them having nukes would be on the part of China, not NK.

133 posted on 10/20/2006 1:19:30 PM PDT by Go Gordon (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet its hard to pronounce)
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To: Go Gordon

"The perceived threat from them having nukes would be on the part of China, not NK."

? would either of them being perceived as having nukes be a threat to China ?

Both of them have major nuke power in operation, so hiding a bomb project would not be a big deal.

I suspect that either of them could pop a nuke blast within months.


134 posted on 10/20/2006 5:46:50 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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