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Allow Japanese Nukes
Washington Post ^ | 10/20/06 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 10/19/2006 9:27:34 PM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist

The first stop on Condoleezza Rice's post-detonation, nuclear reassurance tour was Tokyo. There she dutifully unfurled the American nuclear umbrella, pledging in person that the United States would meet any North Korean attack on Japan with massive American retaliation, nuclear if necessary.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: japan; northkorea
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To: AmericanExceptionalist

Japan will realize this on their own soon, especially if the american electorate hands the Dems power.


2 posted on 10/19/2006 9:29:19 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: AmericanExceptionalist; Grampa Dave; Jeff Head
The importance of Japan as an ally was emphasized by Richard Bernstein and Ross H. Munro in The Coming Conflict with China.

It is important that Japan develop consciousness that it needs its own nuclear deterent vis-a-vis not merely the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea (which threw a Taepodong over Japan in 1998) but also against the Kim Family Regime's (KFR) lips-and-teeth control, the Peoples Republic of China.

3 posted on 10/19/2006 9:36:09 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: AmericanExceptionalist

I'm sorry, having Japan nuclearize has the same amount of appeal as having a nuclearized Germany.

We don't need more countries having nuclear weapons, period.

Ally today, enemy tomorrow.


4 posted on 10/19/2006 9:44:30 PM PDT by diesel00
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To: diesel00

Whatever newbie. Of all the nations on Earth, Japan is the one we could trust most with nuclear weapons.


5 posted on 10/19/2006 9:47:44 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: AmericanExceptionalist

Will Japan always be an ally?


6 posted on 10/19/2006 9:50:53 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: AmericanExceptionalist

Allow 'em, hell! Give 'em to them - and the Taiwanese, too.


7 posted on 10/19/2006 9:51:33 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: AmericanExceptionalist; maikeru; Dr. Marten; Eric in the Ozarks; Al Gator; snowsislander; ...
Charles hits the kugi (nail) on the atama (head) yet again!

Japan * ping * (kono risuto ni hairitai ka detai wo shirasete kudasai : let me know if you want on or off this list)

8 posted on 10/19/2006 9:51:38 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: AmericanExceptionalist

This is the worst idea ever. Other countries in Asia haven't forgotten World War II. They still fear and loath the Japanese. A nuclear Japan pushes South Korea, the Phillipines, Indonesia, even Taiwan closer to China. Do the South Koreans have any need to see a nuclear Japan as a threat? No. But they will anyway. And they'll see China as their strategic counterweight. If South Korea leaves the American orbit for China's -- as it is threatening to --, that will be very bad for US interests in the region.


9 posted on 10/19/2006 9:57:14 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: diesel00
I'm sorry, having Japan nuclearize has the same amount of appeal as having a nuclearized Germany.

What's wrong with a "nuclearized Germany"? They aren't a threat to the rest of the civilized world, and neither is Japan.

10 posted on 10/19/2006 9:58:09 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Karl Rove you magnificent bastard!)
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To: Alter Kaker

What do you suggest? More diplomacy? Clinton and Carter did that and look where that got us.


11 posted on 10/19/2006 9:59:04 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Karl Rove you magnificent bastard!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
What do you suggest? More diplomacy? Clinton and Carter did that and look where that got us.

I'm not sure I understand your point. How does a nuclear Japan help things? If the interest is in deterring a Korean attack on Tokyo, the US could simply reassert its historic commitment to providing a nuclear umbrella. A nuclear Japan isn't any more likely to launch a preemptive attack on Pyongyang than a nuclear Washington is. In fact, it's probably less likely to.

12 posted on 10/19/2006 10:01:17 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker
If the interest is in deterring a Korean attack on Tokyo, the US could simply reassert its historic commitment to providing a nuclear umbrella.

Then what the hell do you call "arming Japan with nukes"?

A nuclear Japan isn't any more likely to launch a preemptive attack on Pyongyang than a nuclear Washington is. In fact, it's probably less likely to.

Of course. NK knows that too. They also know that if they attack first, they will be instantly marginalized from the rest of the world, who will rush to our side, because we're the only nation on the face of the Earth willing and able to deal with the problem.

13 posted on 10/19/2006 10:08:39 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Karl Rove you magnificent bastard!)
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To: oceanview

The very reason we trust Japan as an ally is the same reason they opt out of having nukes on their own accord.

They beleive in stability, and their developing a nuke would simply add to the instability. Of course, they live in a world where not enough countries feel the same.

Ultimately, I think if Japan was nuked by Korea, we would then nuke Korea. The Japanese and probably the Koreans also think this, in my opinion. Therefore, since they would never preemptively nuke another country, they can have their cake and eat it too, without seeming agressive on the world stage.

Meanwhile, they can build any number of "Defensive weapons" and I have no doubt they will.


14 posted on 10/19/2006 10:09:13 PM PDT by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: AmericanExceptionalist

You can't post the entire article. WashComPost has to be excerpted.


15 posted on 10/19/2006 10:13:30 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Then what the hell do you call "arming Japan with nukes"?

There's all the difference in the world between having an American and a Japanese finger on the button. The US long ago said that any attack on Tokyo would merit a nuclear response from the United States. That should be restated and made explicit. But I'm still not sure how allowing Japan to develop its own nuclear weapons makes things any better, and I do see how it makes things a lot worse.

16 posted on 10/19/2006 10:15:08 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: AmericanExceptionalist
I hope both Japan & Taiwan build & test some nukes very soon.
17 posted on 10/19/2006 10:17:27 PM PDT by Left2Right ("Democracy isn't perfect, but other governments are so much worse")
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To: Alter Kaker
But I'm still not sure how allowing Japan to develop its own nuclear weapons makes things any better

If Japan was ruled by a crazed dictator, then you might have a point. But, alas, you don't.

18 posted on 10/19/2006 10:17:40 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Karl Rove you magnificent bastard!)
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Having been in the Navy long enough, I know that we are always nearby in case the ugly stuff hits the fan. Needless to say, we can certainly mount a quick and deadly counter-offensive if need be.


19 posted on 10/19/2006 10:22:42 PM PDT by rbosque
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To: oceanview
Japan will realize this on their own soon, especially if the american electorate hands the Dems power.

France has a small nuclear arsenal. In a strategic nuclear exchange with any super power she would lose. However, Charles Degaule postulated, would the United States go to war and sacrifice New York for Paris if France was attacked? If I were the Japanese I would get very busy building a nuclear deterrent under their control.

20 posted on 10/19/2006 10:24:52 PM PDT by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash and proud of it, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast)
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