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To: Gay State Conservative

It's a matter of priorities. The German law puts the right of the children to be protected from childwork, homeschooling etc. higher then the right of the parents to decide what special kind of education their children might get.

Looking at the high number of muslim and other immigrants I can only hope we keep this law - otherwise we loose young muslims to the imam schools.


16 posted on 10/20/2006 7:25:25 AM PDT by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: Rummenigge
Most european muslims already attend private religious schools where they are indoctrinated my imams.
Apparently these Christian homeschooling parents need to create their own private religious schools, after which the Eurabian governments would bend to their every whim as they do to the muslims.
19 posted on 10/20/2006 7:32:48 AM PDT by Sisku Hanne (*Support DIANA IREY for US Congress!* Send "Cut-n-Run" Murtha packing: HIT THE ROAD, JACK!)
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To: Rummenigge; BlackElk
Looking at the high number of muslim and other immigrants I can only hope we keep this law - otherwise we loose young muslims to the imam schools.

That means you believe that the state, not the parents are primarily responsible for the formation of children?! If you are preventing the best parents from educating their children properly because you fear the imams, you have already given up.

I am a home-schooling father of two, and would flee the country or face jail rather than let my children be minions of "compulsory" state education. Germany will lose its best people, but the immigrants will stay and because they believe in something, and the lefties believe in nothing, these immigrants will still believe in the instruction given them by the imams.
26 posted on 10/20/2006 8:04:00 AM PDT by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Rummenigge

How 'bout Germany stops importing Muslims rather than limiting the rights of German parents to rear their children as they see fit?


32 posted on 10/20/2006 9:21:34 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: Rummenigge
The German law puts the right of the children to be protected from childwork, homeschooling etc.

Child "slavery" laws I understand (along with physical abuse, etc.), but why do children need to be protected from homeschooling? Are not parents the first and most important teachers of their own children?

Looking at the high number of muslim and other immigrants I can only hope we keep this law - otherwise we loose young muslims to the imam schools.

If a particular class of immigrant poses a threat to your country and what should be the freedoms of it's citizens (though these "freedoms" appear to currently be very deficient), why do you and your country permit them to immigrate to begin with?

49 posted on 10/20/2006 2:34:42 PM PDT by TotusTuus
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To: Rummenigge

"It's a matter of priorities. The German law puts the right of the children to be protected from childwork, homeschooling etc. higher then the right of the parents to decide what special kind of education their children might get.

Looking at the high number of muslim and other immigrants I can only hope we keep this law - otherwise we loose young muslims to the imam schools." You wrote
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People should have a right to an education. But if the state gives itself the power to force public education onto people, then it becomes forceful state mandated indoctrination. While ineffective with a group like the Muslims in Germany; it is exactly that which some hope to achieve. That is exactly a power the state should not and thank God does not have in the US.

You loose the Muslims anyway. They grow up in predominantly Muslim communities like in Feschenheim (FF a.M.), they go to their Mosque, send their kids back to Turkey or where ever to get untaught dirty Western ways. They have their own TV, radio, and newspapers. They wear headscarves because they choose not to integrate and make it a point to separate themselves from our societies. They choose to live among us because of the jobs and material wealth, but many (not all) don't really want to be part of the society. No, your public education system will not influence this. It has not worked thus far, and it's been going on since the late 70s.

Home schooling my little German friend, was banned in 1938; guess by who?

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/139

At the same time while they banned home schooling they did create other new great educational programs like the HJ. Like your Kindergeld, the proponents of this great masterpiece in social engineering (A common theme among socialists world wide) in Germany really don’t want to discuss the origin of these programs or ideas.

Ask yourself this. Those trying to home school in Germany, are they Muslims? No, they are not; the couple in trouble today is Baptist. What does that do with your whole make belief argument that this somehow will force integrate the Muslim minority? The courts in Europe backing the German law has nothing to do with protecting children from child labor or any other thing. It's about power, and a state that which whenever it has power will exercise it. Those making the decisions in this matter were all ‘secular progressives’; the same bunch that wanted to penalize Poland because of their position on gays.

http://www.echr.coe.int/echr

They’re a bunch of socialists, and they like big government, and believe in concepts like ‘staatliches Gewaltmonopol’, ‘zentralizierung’ etc. Sure, this issue is one about protecting children, I believe it./sarc


53 posted on 10/20/2006 7:45:11 PM PDT by Red6 (Weird thoughts -)
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