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America 2050: A Nation of Turtles
HumanEventsOnline ^ | October 20, 2006 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 10/21/2006 4:13:13 PM PDT by NapkinUser

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To: Lurker
I'll deal with Office Johnson as soon as I am done explaining to Officer Briggs' kids that I'm supposed to be more upset about Johnson than about him, because after all...he was killed by a native-born hoodlum.


Michael Briggs leaves behind a wife and two sons.

Michael Addison
Michael Addison of Manchester is charged with Briggs' murder.

Tell me...am I supposed to feel LESS for Officer Briggs and his family?

You seem to think I should.

41 posted on 10/21/2006 9:12:47 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Lurker
"You sure don't seem to have much of a problem with those murderers being in this country illegally."

Making sh%t up because you're running out of arguments?

What I have a preoblem with is people who use emotion-based, BS arguments to make a point...like you and Democrats do.

42 posted on 10/21/2006 9:14:22 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: NapkinUser

It's still "turtles, all the way down."


43 posted on 10/21/2006 9:15:25 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
am I supposed to feel LESS for Officer Briggs and his family?

Nope.

Like I said, we'll just put Luis in the "It's More Important For My Pals To Make Money Hiring Illegals Than It Is To Stop Thugs And Murderers From Entering American Illegally" column.

Now go tell the Widow Johnson that her husband was just the price we pay so your pals can get their crops picked.

L

44 posted on 10/21/2006 9:16:16 PM PDT by Lurker (He just sat there, biting the heads off whippets...)
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To: Lurker

Want to make a bet?

You post pictures of all people killed by illegal aliens, and I'll post pictures of people killed by the native born and let's see whether yours are more dead than mine.

I'll start with Tim McVeigh's victims' pictures...that'll keep me busy for a while.

Your point is an absurd one.


45 posted on 10/21/2006 9:17:04 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Lurker

Naw...that's wrong.

It's you who should be in a column.

You would headline the "it's less important to remember you if you were murdered by a native born thug, but if I can use your murder in order to forward my political agenda regarding illegal aliens, then your death becomes important."

I don't give a rat's ass who kills another human being...they're scum.

They're no less scum if their forebears landed on the Mayflower, than if they crossed the Rio Grande last night.


46 posted on 10/21/2006 9:20:22 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Your point is an absurd one.

I'll tell you what. You post all your pictures, and I'll post mine.

Then we'll do some simple arithmetic. We'll subtract my number from your number.

That's how many Americans would still be alive if they hadn't been killed by illegals.

But what the Hell is a few extra dead Americans when you've got friends who need their crops picked. We wouldn't want to cut in to their profits now would we.

Sorry about that Mrs. Johnson. Your husband is dead and your kids are fatherless because guys like Luis think cheap tomatos are more important. I'm sure you understand.

L

47 posted on 10/21/2006 9:20:38 PM PDT by Lurker (He just sat there, biting the heads off whippets...)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Nothing new here. Google "Thomas Nast Irish" images.

Here's one:


http://www.greatcaricatures.com/articles_galleries/nast/html/1871_0902_irish.html


48 posted on 10/21/2006 9:22:41 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
...they're scum.

They're scum who don't belong here. They're scum who never should have been here in the first place.

That little fact seems to escape your attention.

But as I said, getting your friends tomatoes picked is what's really important. But rather than pay a few more bucks to get them picked, it's better to break the law and hire illegals.

Never mind those bodies piling up in the morgue...

L

49 posted on 10/21/2006 9:25:16 PM PDT by Lurker (He just sat there, biting the heads off whippets...)
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To: Lurker

You simply want to use the bodies piling up in the morgue that suit your agenda, while ignoring the ones that don't.

How sad for the dead that don't suit your agenda.


50 posted on 10/21/2006 9:27:50 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
How sad for the dead that don't suit your agenda.

What's even sadder is the dead who do suit yours.

Enjoy those tomatoes Luis, and have fun spending that money. You might want to wash your hands after you touch it though. I hear blood is kind of tough to wash off.

Hey I've got an idea. Why don't you post the businesses owned by your farmer friends who are employing people in violation of Federal law? I mean, you seem awfully proud of these hardworking farmer types. Why don't you share their identities with us?

Then we can be sure to pick up their products when we see them on the shelves, or alternately we can notify the authorities and have their law breaking asses hauled off to prison.

L

51 posted on 10/21/2006 9:37:11 PM PDT by Lurker (He just sat there, biting the heads off whippets...)
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To: Lurker

I have a problem with ALL the blood, you only have a problem with the blood that furthers your immigration agenda, and I have no "farmer friends" doing anything illegal; it's sad that your resort to lies to this degree.

I'm sure that you eat tomatoes, and lettuce, and all sorts of fruit, and since I KNOW that there's no line available out there that GUARANTEES that produce to be illegal alien free, it appears that you are the biggest hypocrite of the two of us.

You believe that those tomatoes are covered in blood, yet you eat them anyway.

Carry on.

I'm done with you.


52 posted on 10/21/2006 9:44:16 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Earthdweller
Buchanan smells like an old antisemitic shoe.
So, he is stil correct here.
53 posted on 10/21/2006 9:49:25 PM PDT by rmlew (DeathKlok Rules!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

"Every race, every nationality, every religion, every age has killers, rapists, and child molesters."

No crap, Sherlock. But if increased border security could have kept even one illegal alien who ended up murdering somebody out of this country, it would be worth it. There is no reason to have both land borders unsecured after 9/11.

I wonder why somebody named "Luis Gonzalez" is arguing in favor of illegal immigrants from Mexico here so breathlessly anyway. Hmm....


54 posted on 10/21/2006 9:57:35 PM PDT by NapkinUser (http://www.votegraf.org/)
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To: Lurker; Luis Gonzalez; Spiff; All
I think everybody should take a look at the #4 post by FReeper Spiff in this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1623364/posts

"25 murders a day by illegal immigrants." -Representative Ted Poe (R-TX).

55 posted on 10/21/2006 10:17:53 PM PDT by NapkinUser (http://www.votegraf.org/)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
You believe that those tomatoes are covered in blood, yet you eat them anyway

I grow my own thank you very much.

I'm done with you.

You're the one who started this. If you don't like what I have to say, then don't respond to my posts.

I have a problem with ALL the blood

Apparently not.

you only have a problem with the blood that furthers your immigration agenda,

I have a problem with people who come to this country illegally and rape, rob, maim, and kill my fellow Americans. Sadly it seems you don't.

If you really have a problem with all the blood, you should be in favor of sealing the borders to reduce as much as possible the blood shed by scum who violate our immigration laws and then harm Americans.

Doesn't that make sense Luis?

You do want to reduce the number of Americans who are killed, robbed, raped, and maimed don't you Luis?

L

56 posted on 10/21/2006 10:52:02 PM PDT by Lurker (He just sat there, biting the heads off whippets...)
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To: NapkinUser
Luis is of Cuban extraction. Therefore his family benefitted from the "Cuban One Foot Law" we have. His family is here legally, so God bless them.

His defense of those who willfully break our laws is what I take issue with. And I intend to call him on it every single time I see it.

Thanks for the link to Spiffs incredible post.

What really pisses me off is that people like Luis are willing to live with something up to 25 Americans being murdered needlessly nearly every day. Every death is a tragedy. Every single extra one is a shameful blot.

L

57 posted on 10/21/2006 11:00:08 PM PDT by Lurker (He just sat there, biting the heads off whippets...)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
In fact, the incarceration rate...

Isn't Catch-and-Release a wonderful thing? </sarc>

The lid that needs to be put on ehe sugar/trashcan of this country is to squash businesses that knowingly employ illegal workers.

A relative of mine who was a police officer used to get so frustrated in solving crime problems in his jurisdiction because the managers of the camps where illegals were would always annouce when the police arrived, so they could all hide and cover for the perps. The camp managers didn't care that their workers preyed upon the locals--they would lose profit if they lost workers.

Plus, I think that if people want to invade the US, they should be shot just like any other invader/intruder/raider. That would help cut down on the crime. It might make US prices go through the roof, American wages fall (as companies had to compete by using US workers), etc...but that's going to happen from allowing massive low-cost-labor immigration, too!

58 posted on 10/22/2006 6:00:47 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: durasell
Wow! The anti-English rhetoric is pretty durn nasty in that one. Was 'the "Irish People,"(sic) August 19th' published in America? Although couched in defensive tone, it's pretty harsh to say:
[...]arm yourselves to the teeth; if you or any one belonging to you be injured by any assault whatever, take the law into your own hands, for the law refuses you protection, and shoot down the Orange dogs as you would the commonest vermin that afflict your premises.
No wonder there was such a feeling toward the Irish.
59 posted on 10/22/2006 6:10:45 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

And Thomas Nast et al were the mainstream press of the day. There were some real extremists at the fringes!


60 posted on 10/22/2006 6:32:26 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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