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U.S.,Iraqi Forces Raid Radical Shiite Stronghold (sparks big battle)
AP ^ | Wednesday, October 25, 2006 | AP

Posted on 10/25/2006 6:19:19 AM PDT by Btrp113Cav

BAGHDAD, Iraq — U.S. and Iraqi forces on Wednesday raided Sadr City, the stronghold of the feared Shiite militia led by radical anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, but Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki disavowed the operation, saying he had not been consulted and insisting "that it will not be repeated."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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1 posted on 10/25/2006 6:19:20 AM PDT by Btrp113Cav
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To: Btrp113Cav

Whack 'em. I bet you find some DNC campaign material and talking points in there. Maybe a tape of Dick Durbin's "gulag" remarks...


2 posted on 10/25/2006 6:20:22 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

i bet we find some iranian revolutionary guards, iranian agents, and uhm al-sadr. Hey wait... why haven't we taken out or arrested al-sadr yet...? I forgot... we are scared of getting into a conflict with IRAN.


3 posted on 10/25/2006 6:21:36 AM PDT by Btrp113Cav
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To: Btrp113Cav
The current PM is an appeaser to Sadr.

If you want to know where the coalition screwed the pooch was in letting that diaper stain Sadr live and proposer.
4 posted on 10/25/2006 6:25:08 AM PDT by misterrob (Bill Clinton, The Wizard of "Is")
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To: Btrp113Cav

About time. This is about 3 years too late, but I'll take it.

Take the gloves off.


5 posted on 10/25/2006 6:25:11 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Btrp113Cav

I don't think we're scared of fighting Iran. I think we're waiting for a more optimum time to either take covert action, overt action, or allow some Israeli warplanes to do their duty.


6 posted on 10/25/2006 6:28:04 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: finnman69

Until they kill Sadr and put down his militia entirely, this thing is unwinnable.


7 posted on 10/25/2006 6:28:20 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Btrp113Cav
"Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki disavowed the operation, saying he had not been consulted and insisting "that it will not be repeated."

Plausible deniability, Iraq style?

8 posted on 10/25/2006 6:31:41 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet
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To: Btrp113Cav

The DNC media will be deeply saddened if Al Sadr is "accidently" killed in the crossfire.


9 posted on 10/25/2006 6:31:43 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: LZ_Bayonet
Plausible deniability, Iraq style?

My take, too. Maliki's walking a fine line.

10 posted on 10/25/2006 6:33:42 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: SoFloFreeper

I think that Israel is waiting for the skunk-werks/Black Ops exchange program to use some of our neat-o toys./


11 posted on 10/25/2006 6:37:24 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If a pug barks and no one is around to hear it... they hold a grudge for a long time!)
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To: Btrp113Cav

Ok this is what... round 8 with Mookie?

Would it be wrong to pray that he dies today?


12 posted on 10/25/2006 6:39:14 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: finnman69

Be a real shame if something 'happened' to Maliki...


13 posted on 10/25/2006 6:46:26 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Yep.. Just look at Kennedy's coordination with KGB Yuri Andropov trying to undermine Regan for political gain... Do you even doubt that Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Kerry, Murtha, Durbin, Howard Dean etc have not coordinated with our enemies against President Bush....

Why is there not out cry of treason. I know it is difficult for the President to say it but the Pundits need to be out specifically stating that Democrats have betrayed their country in the past and are doing so today...


14 posted on 10/25/2006 6:48:58 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (Terrorists cut our heads off and get medals. We put hoods on theirs and get sent to prison. hmmm)
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To: Btrp113Cav

if he does not want these raids repeated maybe he can send his army to stop it...then we will see who controls what operations.


15 posted on 10/25/2006 6:52:07 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: Btrp113Cav
but Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki disavowed the operation, saying he had not been consulted and insisting "that it will not be repeated."

Oh yes it will..........

16 posted on 10/25/2006 6:53:31 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
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To: misterrob; Btrp113Cav
If you want to know where the coalition screwed the pooch was in letting that diaper stain Sadr live and proposer.

I'm not so sure. The selfsame fact that this idiot is a diaper stain, and still commands the awe of such a large bunch of misfits tells me that were he whacked, any other dim bulb would stand up in his place.

Killing him means playing active whack-a-mole. Leaving him allows the flies to gather in a convenient place.

At the beginning, I believed Bush's theory that all people crave freedom. At this point, I think Mohammad was faced with these people in his time and came up with the only way to keep them in line.....busy praying and cut their heads off if they look askance, and promise them goodies in the next life knowing they were screwed in their current life.

Freedom and liberty is dangerous for people who have no good options.

17 posted on 10/25/2006 6:53:42 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Btrp113Cav
" . . . but Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki disavowed the operation, saying he had not been consulted and insisting "that it will not be repeated."

If that's his attitude, we should get out ASAP. You can NOT build a stable country, much less a democracy, while allowing sectarian militias to roam the streets and taking the law into their own hands. YOU CANNOT ALLOW IT.
18 posted on 10/25/2006 7:03:30 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: misterrob

I think Maliki knew all about the operation, but he's claiming he wasn't consulted so he can still try the diplomatic approach with Sadr, i.e. good cop/bad cop.


19 posted on 10/25/2006 7:04:46 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: angkor
"Until they kill Sadr and put down his militia entirely, this thing is unwinnable."

Ditto. And that is why I'm very disturbed by al-Maliki's comments. If he intends to allow the militias to roam the streets, we should just get out and let them figure out their own solution.
20 posted on 10/25/2006 7:05:34 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Btrp113Cav
Already Posted.
21 posted on 10/25/2006 7:06:44 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Btrp113Cav
the stronghold of the feared Shiite militia

We need to teach these idiots the real meaning of the word fear ... but then, that's not gonna happen, is it.

22 posted on 10/25/2006 7:27:16 AM PDT by tx_eggman (The people who work for me wear the dog collars. It's good to be king. - ccmay)
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To: Btrp113Cav

Probably did not notify Malki for fear his people would warn the militia of the impending attack and whomever was the target for the raid would dissappear.


23 posted on 10/25/2006 7:30:10 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Allegra

Ping.


24 posted on 10/25/2006 7:32:51 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

I don't think the earlier story had the Iraqi politico saying "They fired bombs at houses that killed innocent women and children," and that instead of going in and arresting the bad guys, the attackers acted "as if we are in a war zone."


25 posted on 10/25/2006 7:38:54 AM PDT by Ilky Hucktar
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

Sadr isn't the target me thinks. We are just sending a message. But there needs to come a time when we take him out. Yes it will cause a big uprising, but we will just need to kill those that get out of line until it dies over. It seems that everyone but our Military and GWB have gotten the message that the only think these people understand is brute force. After Nov 7th, providing repubs hold the House, it's time to kick some.GWB can't leave this for the next President.


26 posted on 10/25/2006 7:41:31 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: Allegra

N/M, just realized this was a repost, and you'd already commented here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1725471/posts?page=15#15


27 posted on 10/25/2006 7:49:11 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Where do you think the DNC tire slasher operatives got their training. Uncover some of those masked terrorist, maybe one of them will be that coward, (I can't raise any money for the DNC,) Howie Dean, getting some of that Syrian, Iranian, n.Korean, and chi com election money being funneled through the shites.
28 posted on 10/25/2006 7:49:23 AM PDT by paratrooper82 (82 Airborne 1/508th BN "fury from the sky")
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To: DAC21

It seems that everyone but our Military and GWB have gotten the message that the only think these people understand is brute force.



Correction, the military have known that, it is the 'decision makers', both political and military that don't want to upset a broken apple cart.


29 posted on 10/25/2006 8:04:15 AM PDT by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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To: Btrp113Cav

Same thing I've been posting for three years now: It's time to make fat boy Sadr disappear. Not killed in battle, just disappeared. Maybe down in a rathole to hang with the 12th imam.


30 posted on 10/25/2006 8:06:32 AM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: tx_eggman

This seems to be a historical mistake by Pres Bush. At least Lincoln fired non-productive generals. We need generals that will fight. Unless of course, it is Bush who is tying our military up in this posture.....


31 posted on 10/25/2006 8:10:23 AM PDT by blasater1960 ( Ishmaelites...Still a wild-ass of a people....)
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To: Numbers Guy

Kill him and you'll see him adorning velvet paintings on the streets of every Shiite dominated region. He will graduate from Shia Pet to Shia Martyr.

Intern.Indoctrinate.Conscript.

Kind of like the way Saddam did it.


32 posted on 10/25/2006 8:13:24 AM PDT by kinghorse (I calls them like I sees them)
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To: kinghorse

And he'll be handsome on those velvet paintings. That's the real injustice. Do we want to make this ugly rat a handsome martyr?


33 posted on 10/25/2006 8:14:37 AM PDT by kinghorse (I calls them like I sees them)
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To: kinghorse
Kill him and you'll see him adorning velvet paintings on the streets of every Shiite dominated region. He will graduate from Shia Pet to Shia Martyr.

That's why I want him to be disappeared instead. If he just vanishes, with no clear indication of what happened to him, instead of a martyr he's the Iraqi Jimmy Hoffa.

34 posted on 10/25/2006 8:16:43 AM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: kinghorse

If we would capture Sadr and put him in jail, we could simply sit and wait on these fiends of Sadr's to show themselves, and pick them off as they show.


35 posted on 10/25/2006 8:16:58 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: Btrp113Cav
Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki disavowed the operation, saying he had not been consulted and insisting "that it will not be repeated."

Oh, yes it will, and you'd better grow a set and stop kissing Sadr's @ss, Maliki, or you'll be looking for another job.
36 posted on 10/25/2006 8:19:05 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God." (Psalm 53:1))
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To: kinghorse

but personally, I prefer Sadr dead myself


37 posted on 10/25/2006 8:21:21 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: Btrp113Cav

Al-Maliki must go!


38 posted on 10/25/2006 8:26:27 AM PDT by metesky (My investment portfolio is holding steady @ .05¢ a can.)
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To: metesky
Al-Maliki must go!

Did you listen to the President's speech this morning? Al-Maliki has only been on office five months, what do you expect really? It's going to take time. I agree with the President as long as Al-Maliki continues to make tough decisions we are going to support him. Plus what choice do we have? He was democratically elected. The Iraqis will get rid of him if he is ineffective. They like strong leadership.

39 posted on 10/25/2006 8:32:51 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The israelis can't even wipe out the hezzies, they ain't doing anything anymore. Its up to US.


40 posted on 10/25/2006 8:32:53 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Btrp113Cav

> "It will not be repeated."

Kill them all and it won't have to be.


41 posted on 10/25/2006 8:35:31 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: Btrp113Cav
Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki


He is a shiite, just like his predecessor. Controlled by Iran. He was a member of the DAWA, an organization that our State Department accused of bombing our embassy.

We will not achieve victory until Iran and Syrian support for terror is taken out of the picture. President Bush has not done anything about those to terrorist sanctuaries, why? How many years with no action against those two countries that are complicit in killing our troops?
42 posted on 10/25/2006 8:40:49 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Smogger
"They like strong leadership."

Unfortunately, it is looking more and more like Maliki is a Sadr puppet.

43 posted on 10/25/2006 8:42:01 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: TomasUSMC

I think it's a balancing act. The Shiite terrorists have links with Iran and Syria. But al Qaeda is basically Wahabi style Sunni terrorists. It's hard to say which is worse, the Wahabi or the Shia fanatics. Then there's the Muslim Brotherhood out of Egypt, with their ties to Communism and world connections to the Left.

We certainly need to control the worst of the Shia troublemakers, but we don't want to put the Sunni fundamentalists in the saddle either. It seems to me that these materials are almost impossible to work with, no matter how you slice it. We got behind Saddam in the first place because he seemed like the best way to control these nutjob factions. Ha.


44 posted on 10/25/2006 8:48:04 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: sam_paine
At the beginning, I believed Bush's theory that all people crave freedom.

I wonder if he still does.

45 posted on 10/25/2006 8:52:02 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
I wonder if he still does.

It is never safe to put the words politicians and belief together.

46 posted on 10/25/2006 8:56:42 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Smogger; metesky
Did you listen to the President's speech this morning? Al-Maliki has only been on office five months, what do you expect really?

I expect him to STOP STANDING IN THE WAY of our troops and the Iraqi forces going after the Mahdi Army and the Badr Brigade. He's cried "foul!" twice now when we've ventured into Sadr City which is where the current troubles are originating.

I expect him t STOP making public appearances with Muqtada al Sadr like he did in Najaf last week, calling for the U.S. to release a high-ranking Sadr terrorist.

I expect him to STOP appeasing that trash from Iran. Iran has NO BUSINESS in Iraq.

I expect him to work with us in stablizing Iraq, not agaisnt us AND THE IRAQI CITIZENS.

47 posted on 10/25/2006 8:56:45 AM PDT by Allegra (Super Elastic Bubble Plastic!)
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To: Captain Kirk

Yeah, I forgot the "or ever did" part.


48 posted on 10/25/2006 8:58:07 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Allegra

Great rant, Allegra! You are right on.


49 posted on 10/25/2006 9:04:31 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Allegra

Maliki is such a coward.

There is nothing people like from a politician worse then a coward like Maliki.

Jaafari certainly was alot like Maliki, the big difference was that Jaafari was respectful to the US. He was playing both the US and Sadr to help him, but in doing so he did not attack the United States.

Maliki has attacked and attacked the US for one thing after the other, the man takes our support for granted and thinks he can piss on us while he uses our money to make Iraq safe for pro-Iranian militants. I actually consider Maliki worse then Jaafari. Maliki was Sadr's first choice after Jaafari was replaced for good reason.


50 posted on 10/25/2006 9:07:53 AM PDT by jmc1969
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