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Update: Now 4 Firefighters Perish Battling Cabazon Blaze (Investigators: Arson Fire Palm Springs)
Los Angeles Times ^ | 11:20 AM PDT, October 26, 2006 | Michael Muskal and Maeve Reston

Posted on 10/26/2006 11:48:53 AM PDT by kellynla

CABAZON, Calif. -- A fast-moving fire killed at least three firefighters, prompted mandatory evacuations and burned more than 4,000 acres in Riverside County this morning, officials said.

The Esperanza fire in Cabazon, some 90 miles east of Los Angeles and about 20 miles northwest of Palm Springs, was reported at 1:12 a.m., Becky Luther, a spokeswoman for the Riverside County Fire Department, said in a telephone interview.

"It's a very serious fire," Luther said. "There are Santa Ana conditions and the fire is fast moving."

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger told reporters that three firefighters were killed fighting the blaze. The U.S. Forest Service confirmed the deaths, adding that two firefighters were critically injured.

The exact dimensions of the fire were hard to determine because of the thick smoke and the relative lack of access, according to Capt. Julie Hutchinson of the Riverside County Fire Department and California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection.

Television images showed houses and other structures burning, but the exact number could not be confirmed.

Wind speed and heat are the twin dangers at the fire scene. Winds were running 18 to 25 mph with steady gusts of 30 mph, Luther said. Temperatures are expected to be around 80 degrees.

More than 300 firefighters were battling the blaze, though that number was increasing, fire officials said. More than 27 crews were at the scene along with 68 engines, six air tankers and seven helicopters.

There were reports that at least one firefighter and some residents required medical treatment. But fire officials stressed the reports were unconfirmed.

A mandatory evacuation was ordered for the Twin Pines and Poppet Flats areas, Luther said.

About 150 homes were threatened in the areas with the majority, about 100 homes, in Twin Pines.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: arson; cabazon; cabazonfire; esperanzafire; fire; firemen; islam; murder; muslims; palmsprings; rip; wildfire
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

He is a very wise man,,,From what I see on FOX the wind is shifting and still blowing 40mph making a "Blow-Torch"
effect in front of it...


321 posted on 10/26/2006 9:54:00 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: abigailsmybaby

I forgot all about him. Wish he had stayed forgotten.


322 posted on 10/26/2006 9:54:34 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless America, land that I love. NEVER FORGET ... Some Gave All ...)
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To: frank_ep

Frank,

I think I read Pine Cove, but not sure on that one.

They were from that area though, maybe even knowing the owners of the home. They take it personal up there.

Regards,
Joe


323 posted on 10/26/2006 9:55:30 PM PDT by Sonar5 (62 Million+ have Spoken Clearly - "We Want Our Country Back")
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To: NormsRevenge

Thanks for that great map!!


324 posted on 10/26/2006 9:56:32 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I'm wondering if TV coverage is scant because they don't want to get reporters too close to this monster.


325 posted on 10/26/2006 9:56:32 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless America, land that I love. NEVER FORGET ... Some Gave All ...)
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To: frank_ep

Ok, found it according to CDF, they were from Alandale Ranger Station in Idyllwild.

http://www.beloblog.com/Pe_Blogs/#a048291


326 posted on 10/26/2006 10:04:31 PM PDT by Sonar5 (62 Million+ have Spoken Clearly - "We Want Our Country Back")
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To: All

Okay, here is the latest per 10 o'clock news.

The one remaining hospitalized fire fighter is not expected to live.
24K acres consumed
5 homes lost
700 evacuated

25-35 mph winds continue tomorrow and likely til Saturday.


327 posted on 10/26/2006 10:13:52 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Sonar5
Roger-That and Tanks,Marine,,,From the looks of it,it may
go into those high ridges between Hemet and Idyllwild
Depending on the wind,,,Do you have topography of that area ?...
328 posted on 10/26/2006 10:13:55 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: kellynla

There has to be more than just 5 homes lost...


329 posted on 10/26/2006 10:16:24 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Of course.

http://www.sanjac.statepark.org/map.pdf

Or

Topo Zone:
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=33.81471&lon=-116.67944&s=200&size=m&layer=DRG100&datum=nad83

It's already in the ridges. Winds have died down quite a bit according to news, which is good.

Hopefully when I get up tomorrow there will be more good news.


330 posted on 10/26/2006 10:22:09 PM PDT by Sonar5 (62 Million+ have Spoken Clearly - "We Want Our Country Back")
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To: Sonar5

TANKS Again and Sleep Well...


331 posted on 10/26/2006 10:30:53 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Sonar5

I just got back from my drive. I drove along Soboba Rd. right past the casino. There are many fire engines parked along the side of the road and in housing tracts. From Florida Ave., the fire can be seen in many areas on the mountain. It appears to have come over the peak and is burning down. I am so glad it's not windy. It didn't look like it was raging. I'll see better tomorrow in daylight.

Everything seemed calm. Casino open with people coming and going. My daughter and I are still coughing.


332 posted on 10/26/2006 10:36:11 PM PDT by CaliGirl-R (Everything I know about Dems, I learned from Democratic Underground)
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To: CaliGirl-R

Welcome back, glad to hear first hand the winds are slowing, it's tomorrow that will be the turn day or not.

As it burns down, if the winds pick up, it will probaly start running those ridges to the south, southwest.

That is good news as it takes it away from San Jacinto and Hemet. Less population that way, for now anyway, then maybe they can take a hold on it tomorrow night.

Glad to hear your both safe.

I'm off to bed, I'll check in in the am when I get to the office. I work right near F70, French Valley Airport. 11 Minute Commute each way. Wheee......

Take Care,
Joe


333 posted on 10/26/2006 10:45:57 PM PDT by Sonar5 (62 Million+ have Spoken Clearly - "We Want Our Country Back")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Last I saw from the CDF report, it was 10 homes...


334 posted on 10/26/2006 11:10:17 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Update,...why we care about Santa Ana winds....

You are not alone. I live in LA as well. Those winds are amazingly dangerous. Your post was very timely.

Last year, around this time of year, I was out in Santa Monica Bay sailing around for hours in my luxurious sailboat. The winds were consistent, 15 mph from the south, all day long. Suddenly the winds stopped. I looked up at the windex wind pointer high atop my luxurious sailboats mast. It was spinning like a helicopter from the boats motion.

There was no wind at all for about 4 or 5 minutes then the Santana's came racing across the ocean from the north at 50 mph. I saw it too late and it knocked my luxury sailboat down on it's side. The Santa Ana's are a force to be reckoned with. And sadly an incredible fire danger.

Regards.

335 posted on 10/26/2006 11:35:21 PM PDT by ARE SOLE
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To: La Enchiladita
Dumb Donk trying to make political hay of the fire, claiming Arnold took benefits away from firefighter widows and orphans.

What a bastard. That was never, ever true. One of the petitions to be circulated for last year's reform agenda had a drafting error by a Republican legislator meaning it did not specifically include special protection for benefits for firefighter widows and orphans. On the B.S. blitzkrieg, the unions and Rats exclaimed that lack of specific protection was the same as taking away those benefits when that was never ever contemplated. Never. Period. Thanks to MSM, perception became "reality" so Arnold withdrew the petition and spiked that particular reform.

336 posted on 10/26/2006 11:57:09 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Arnold-McClintock-YES 85 Parents Notified-YES 90 Eminent Domain-SanDiego:NO A,YES B & C)
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To: metmom

Burns are the most horrible and painful wounds imaginable. This fire was deliberately set. Prayers for the fallen, the injured, and the families. Prayers too, for the arsonist.........may he be found quickly......and dealt with in accordance to his crime.


337 posted on 10/27/2006 12:08:45 AM PDT by Just Lori (Thank you, United States Air Force! Sixty years of awesome service!)
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To: RDTF

It literally exploded. People don't have time to spare in this type of fire, just like the fire in San Diego in 2003, they just race across the landscape.


338 posted on 10/27/2006 12:14:58 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Spanaway Lori
Where this fire was set was considered to be the best place to cause the worst fire.

Firemen felt whoever set this planned to do this.

I'm wondering if this was the Religion of Peace here. I don't know, but since this was not accidental, but intentionally set and well thought out, I lean heavily toward radical Islam in this.

We've had a number of Middle Eastern people cross that were caught and dressed like Mexicans.
339 posted on 10/27/2006 1:17:31 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: kellynla

I noticed ISLAM and MUSLIMS in the keywords. Who is trying to link this tragedy to the Religion of Pieces?


340 posted on 10/27/2006 2:15:36 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Mashed potatoes, gravy, and cranberry sauce! Wooooooo-oooooooo!)
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