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To: FreedomProtector; Alamo-Girl; Cicero; cornelis; metmom; hosepipe
Your essay could be compared to to a movie, where there is a surprise twist...reading along I was expecting a Kierkagaard like statement of existence of truth of higher order which results in the resolution of a paradox, but went down the path of refuting reductionism.

Sorry to disappoint, FreedomProtector! My next post on this thread will likely go in the other direction (i.e., existence of truth of a higher order).

Information is fundamentally a mental entity, it is not a property of matter. While information is stored and transmitted via the unique designs utilizing the laws of physics and chemistry, information is neither matter or energy.

I really wish a scientific materialist would explain to me how information can be a product of matter plus pure chance. This seems to be the materialist position; but I just can't figure out how it can be justified.

Thanks for a great post, FreedomProtector!

307 posted on 11/06/2006 9:41:58 AM PST by betty boop (Beautiful are the things we see...Much the most beautiful those we do not comprehend. -- N. Steensen)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; .30Carbine; cornelis
[ Information is fundamentally a mental entity, it is not a property of matter. ]

Hmmmmm...

What IF information was/were a spiritual matter..
Limited and filtered by translation by a human brain..

That ideas came from a spiritual source..
Fruits from "a spirit/Spirit" but inhibited by the human brain..

And that; no human brain could contain the ultimate good or evil of a matter..
And the Fruit from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was UN-digestible by mankind..

The Genesis story could take on a whole nother light..
The duality's of ugly vs beauty, debits and credits, good vs evil, dream vs reality, matter vs energy, up vs down, and much more in a dualistic world..

Information can indeed be partial but true yet only half of the truth.. i.e. Einstein vs Bohr....

308 posted on 11/06/2006 10:16:10 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: betty boop
Your essay could be compared to to a movie, where there is a surprise twist...reading along I was expecting a Kierkagaard like statement of existence of truth of higher order which results in the resolution of a paradox, but went down the path of refuting reductionism.

Sorry to disappoint, FreedomProtector! My next post on this thread will likely go in the other direction (i.e., existence of truth of a higher order).


...was expecting that... hopefully I didn't steal the thunder of your obvious display of higher order (pun intended) intellectual craftmanship. The show must go on!
310 posted on 11/06/2006 10:47:17 AM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: betty boop; All
Your essay could be compared to to a movie, where there is a surprise twist...reading along I was expecting a Kierkagaard like statement of existence of truth of higher order which results in the resolution of a paradox, but went down the path of refuting reductionism. Sorry to disappoint, FreedomProtector! My next post on this thread will likely go in the other direction (i.e., existence of truth of a higher order).

Advocating the existence of truth of higher order and refuting reductionism are two sides to the same coin. Coins have two sides. This particular coin may have more then two sides.
311 posted on 11/06/2006 11:02:48 AM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: betty boop

It wasn't disappointing...it was exciting.


315 posted on 11/06/2006 4:17:16 PM PST by FreedomProtector
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