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Gallaudet University Terminates Appointment of Incoming (deaf) President
Foxnews ^ | October 29, 2006 | AP

Posted on 10/29/2006 6:19:47 PM PST by kokonut

WASHINGTON — The board of trustees of the nation's premier school for the deaf voted Sunday to terminate the appointment of the incoming president, who had been the subject of protests, the board announced.

The vote at Gallaudet University came after a daylong closed-door meeting that followed a month of protests by students and faculty members. Jane Fernandes, the school's former provost, had been selected in May to take office in January.

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To: kalee
They would rather live with their deafness and obtain all the perks of the disability than seek a permanent cure if one becomes available and have to make it in the real perkless world. Victimhood forever.

Interesting story about... me!

I was born with a very severe hearing impairment. Probably about 95% deaf. Can hear with the help of hearing aids but still have to "lip read."

Back before Kindergarten, my parents had to make a decision. Whether to send me to a deaf school and learn how to sign or send me to a public school where I would have to learn how to join the hearing world. They were told that if I learned to sign (which is way easier than lip reading), it would be near impossible for me to join the hearing world as an adult.

So my parents threw me into the public school and I learned the hard way to communicate with hearing people. I can actually speak well and have conversations with many people. But to tell you the truth, I rarely ever see deaf or other hearing impaired people.

I always wondered if its because they refuse to join the real world and instead stay in their own small world with little opportunities.

21 posted on 10/29/2006 7:27:10 PM PST by John123 (As a tribute to Red, I will light a cigar for every game the Celtics win this season...)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

Imagine the very worst of the shrill, intolerant Left boiled down into a very few nasty, vindicative people who make it their life's work to make life miserable for those they disagree-with. Add a chip on their shoulder the size of Gibraltar, and you've got the Deaf Community.

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Beautifully done.
I was threatened with death, accused of all manner of criminal activity, scorned and hated by nearly everyone in a position of authority over me, lambasted in the Baltimore Sun, investigated by the State Attorney, and much much more.
Why? Because I sought to elevate the poorest and most devastated deaf to lives of independence. The Gallaudet crown was livid. Their contempt is based in a rigid classism that denies the very existence of the most isolated deaf, those with little or no education, skills or opportunity, the so-called "low deaf."
It will take another 50 years to begin to penetrate the sheer lunacy of this bunch.


22 posted on 10/29/2006 7:45:17 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: kokonut

Boy, I'd hate to be the one to have to tell her the bad news. Then again....


23 posted on 10/29/2006 7:46:01 PM PST by fat city (What part of cognitive dissonance don't you understand?)
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To: kokonut

Galluadet seems to be a strange place. This sort of protest and controversy has been going on there for years and years.

Some in the deaf community say they should develop a separate culture and the hearing folks should reach out and respect that idea. Others say the deaf live in a hearing world and should assimilate, learn lip reading, wear strong hearing aides and go for the cochlear implants if medically possible. The Galluadet radicals favor the first way and reject the second.

Most of us hearing people are neutral and we mostly respond to the deaf who follow the second way. Most Americans are hard pressed to learn Spanish, let alone sign language.

Galluadet was founded to help all deaf, not just one group. They (the radicals) need to compromise a bit.


24 posted on 10/29/2006 8:04:17 PM PST by RicocheT
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To: kokonut

One could argue that if these folks wanted to be part of society and deal with their deafness they would not be at Gallaudet in the first place but would be at other universities assimilating with people and learning to function well in society. They've obviously found their own little refuge from the world and how dare someone come along and try to disturb it.


25 posted on 10/29/2006 8:23:07 PM PST by ElCid89 (the corps...the corps...and the corps...)
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To: badpacifist

The students and some alumni agitated against her because she wasn't monolingual ASL.

The great blot against her is that she learned to read lips and speak English as a child and only later learned ASL.


26 posted on 10/29/2006 8:27:13 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: The_Reader_David
The great blot against her is that she learned to read lips and speak English as a child and only later learned ASL.

What a travesty! How dare she! /s

27 posted on 10/29/2006 9:18:24 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Amos the Prophet; Sisku Hanne
"Beautifully done. I was threatened with death, accused of all manner of criminal activity, scorned and hated by nearly everyone in a position of authority over me, lambasted in the Baltimore Sun, investigated by the State Attorney, and much much more. Why? Because I sought to elevate the poorest and most devastated deaf to lives of independence. The Gallaudet crown was livid. Their contempt is based in a rigid classism that denies the very existence of the most isolated deaf, those with little or no education, skills or opportunity, the so-called "low deaf." It will take another 50 years to begin to penetrate the sheer lunacy of this bunch."

So sorry, and thanks for the kind words. And I thought I had it bad for having to change my email address! Please feel free to freepmail me if you want to vent privately. I'm really sorry the Deaf Community impacted your life so severely, and I believe every word you wrote.

And yes, Sisku, I am not kidding, and neither is Amos. These are some of the craziest and nastiest people I've ever dealt with. My experience is a little stale, though, having occurred close to fifteen years ago. In recent years I'm told they've moderated and mellowed, but Amos' experience and this new Gallaudet story argue otherwise. Beware, beware the capital-D Deaf. Cross them--or worse, help a deaf child hear--and they will make it their mission to make your life a living hell.

Their non-Deaf mouthpiece, Harlan Lane, is also a shrill, vindicative and thoroughly nasty piece of work, too.
28 posted on 10/30/2006 8:37:50 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: John123
"Back before Kindergarten, my parents had to make a decision. Whether to send me to a deaf school and learn how to sign or send me to a public school where I would have to learn how to join the hearing world. They were told that if I learned to sign (which is way easier than lip reading), it would be near impossible for me to join the hearing world as an adult. So my parents threw me into the public school and I learned the hard way to communicate with hearing people."

I once was assaulted by a (hearing) mother whose venom took me completely by surprise. I gradually calmed her down, and we got to talking. Turned out her son had a hearing impairment (much less severe than my own) and as a high-school Freshman his grades had slipped. Rather than diagnosing a typical case of Freshmanitis, his pediatrician (who should be shot) had recommended he be transferred to a Deaf school. And within two weeks the kid was refusing to wear his hearing aid and communicating entirely in sign. The mother hated, hated, hated that but was trying to be supportive. That's why she went ballistic on me when I'd innocently advocated mainstreaming when on a panel with her in the audience. After our chat, we both understood where her anger had come from, and my heart went out to her: her son was virtually lost to her.

I wonder how that turned out. Probably not well.
29 posted on 10/30/2006 8:44:02 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: kokonut; Amos the Prophet; Sisku Hanne
Whoa! I browsed to the link you posted and, embedded within it, is the following from the National Association of the Deaf annual meeting this year:

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http://www.nad.org/site/apps/nl/content2.asp?c=foINKQMBF&b=1777507&ct=2739571

...Paddy Ladd sent a page to David Eberwein during the presentation to tell us the following message: "We are faced with new colonialist forces which aim to wipe Deaf people from the face of the Earth. Even though this cannot be achieved of course, the damage they will wreak in the process needs to be confronted by us. But let us also present the positive reasons why Sign Language Peoples are here on Earth - for what we can teach hearing people about the full beauty of life...."

David continued that we need to understand what has been done to us and that will help us move towards Deafhood. The damage that happened in the past will be faced by us. We are continually busy arranging our events to stay afloat in this world and not focused on changing the system. He said that we can strike back by causing economic damages such as bringing on lawsuits against the government and other organizations. It's only when money is being lost on their part, they will feel more compelled to change how things are run...


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See? See? These people are nuts, and vindicative as hell, and total Bolsheviks on top of it.
30 posted on 10/30/2006 9:44:10 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

It has become impossible for hearing persons to be deeply involved in leadership/administrative capacities with deaf people. My family served this population for 85 years. We were finally rejected because we were deemed not deaf enough. My father's parents were deaf from early childhood. Like my father, I grew up in the deaf community.
My supervisor, a District Superintendent of the United Methodist Church, took the side of these Bolsheviks. My work with deeply isolated deaf was repudiated by her and others. She said, "Those people are like sheep. They will follow you anywhere." This, from one Christian minister to another.
I was stunned and dismayed to hear open opposition to Christ's admonition that we feed His sheep, from a leader in a major Christian denomination.
There is a profound mental and emotional imbalance in the thought processes of these people who demand their way or charred remains. They brook no dialogue, no compromise, no reason, and no care for the well being of others.
These are the fascists we have been warned about. To save them and us from their terrorism, we must learn how to teach the unteachable,lead the unleadable, and love the unlovable.


31 posted on 10/30/2006 10:54:33 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
That is stunning.

I'm not trying to be snarky at all, but is there some kind of psychological....psychosis?...attachment disorder?...that can result from isolation/lack of communication with those around you? Such as one sees in orphans who are housed in facilities where there is almost no contact with caregivers? I can think of no other way to explain such behavior.

I've no real experience working with the deaf, but I do with the blind. They, as a whole, do not talk and act like these radicals.

32 posted on 10/30/2006 1:15:28 PM PST by Sisku Hanne (*Support DIANA IREY for US Congress!* Send "Cut-n-Run" Murtha packing: HIT THE ROAD, JACK!)
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To: Sisku Hanne
"That is stunning. I'm not trying to be snarky at all, but is there some kind of psychological....psychosis?...attachment disorder?...that can result from isolation/lack of communication with those around you? Such as one sees in orphans who are housed in facilities where there is almost no contact with caregivers? I can think of no other way to explain such behavior. I've no real experience working with the deaf, but I do with the blind. They, as a whole, do not talk and act like these radicals."

Glad it caught your attention. I'd been assured these folks were mellowing-out, but now I'm convinced they're as nucking futs as ever.

You seem comfortable with psychological terms. You might find Prof. Harlan Lane's professional droppings of interest, in the way that a train-wreck is of interest. He's at Northeastern University and has been featured on "60 Minutes". Happy Googling!
33 posted on 10/30/2006 2:22:53 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: Sisku Hanne

With all due respect, this is not entirely true. There were also true and valid concerns about the way the grammar and high schools were being run; for example unqualified teachers and dismissal of the parents concerns, such that - they moved their kids out of the school. So there is more to the story than the MSM is reporting.


34 posted on 10/30/2006 2:44:46 PM PST by merry10
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To: kalee

Victimhood forever if all they are doing is passing out ASL cards and asking for 1.00 each.

However, I know many deaf people who choose not to implant and are fine with their deafness.


35 posted on 10/30/2006 2:46:26 PM PST by merry10
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To: John123

John,
I moved to PA because it has one of the best residential schools for the deaf in Pittsburgh. My 14 year old attends school there. She is deaf, uses ASL and has a cochlear implant. Back in the 90s, insurance did not cover CIs plus she was having seizures and I woudl rather have a deaf kid than a brain damaged one (exacerbating it by the implant). It's great that this worked out for you. And you're right, many deaf do have a small circle of friends - but you know what - at least they HAVE friends.

And oral language is very hard for a deaf person, as you said....and signing comes naturally to a deaf person, for the most part.

But depending on the school program, like ours - and the transition opportunities they offer, will determine what a deaf kid does after HS. Four of our guys graduated at the top of the Votech classes in HVAC and collision repair and construction. They won't be in a small little world.

regards,

Mary


36 posted on 10/30/2006 2:52:05 PM PST by merry10
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

Regarding your story - I did send my kid to deaf school and she loves it. I had to do what was best for her, not me. She was one of five deaf/hh kids in a southern CA school program....the only deaf one; the other four were HH and hispanic. At her school, she participates in everything. We went back to visit her friends after a year for the 8th grade graduation. One kid is being held back and had joined a gang. The other boy joined a gang too. The girl didn't know where she was going to go to HS.

I think its a matter of perspective.

Best,
Mary


37 posted on 10/30/2006 2:56:06 PM PST by merry10
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To: merry10

Glad it worked out for you and your daughter.


38 posted on 10/30/2006 3:00:27 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: Sisku Hanne

Sisku

There is a kid who goes to my daughter's deaf school out in PGH...a local family. She was adopted at age 8 by this family. So it was kind of late for her to become oral (that means speaking). After two years at the IU, they threw their hands up and decided for her to go to PGH where she was in a class for emotionally disturbed kids. It has finally been decided that she has a reactive detachment disorder...compounded by her years in the orphanage. She has been unable to bond with her adoptive family. The sons in the family want her to get a CI but they do not understand the extensive auditory rehabilitation one must go thru to understand sounds. Having driven my daughter to appointments for over 2 years, I do know of what I speak :)! But its been worth it.

I can honestly say my child has no detachment disorder even if she is out in PGH. Sure, its hard during the week when she's out in PGH, but she loves it and comes home SO happy. The staff does a great job keeping in touch during the week and I can talk to her on the VRS.

Jerry Nailor, Republican, was instrumental in the developmnet of our outreach center and has been in the forefront of making ASL an official foreign language.

If you're ever interested in meeting people in the deaf community, let me know.

I also equate some in the deaf community to our respect for other cultures who share a language and way of life ... like the Amish. Many deaf do not care to embrace technology, although they love their sidekicks and blackberries.


39 posted on 10/30/2006 3:04:43 PM PST by merry10
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To: merry10
"Back in the 90s, insurance did not cover CIs plus she was having seizures and I woudl rather have a deaf kid than a brain damaged one (exacerbating it by the implant)."

Insurance paid for mine in 1990. And the implant isn't going to "exacerbate" anyone's seizures or cause brain damage.

Given that your preceding sentence says that your daughter now has a cochlear implant, I presume it all worked out for you and your daughter.
40 posted on 10/30/2006 3:04:56 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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