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Kerry's Remark: Right either way (Seattle P.I. defends Kerry with disgusting editorial)
The Seattle P.I. ^ | November 2, 2006 | SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER EDITORIAL BOARD

Posted on 11/02/2006 10:53:22 AM PST by Stoat

COMMENTARY ?
OPINION

Thursday, November 2, 2006

Kerry's Remark: Right either way

SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER EDITORIAL BOARD

Republicans evidenced their election desperation by braying about an offhand comment that Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., made at a California college rally.

"Education" Kerry said "-- if you make the most of it and you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

Was Kerry making fun of the president, or warning students against the pitfalls awaiting the undereducated in general?

It doesn't matter. Kerry was right either way.

Kerry wasn't saying -- regardless of the Republican spin -- that our troops are stupid.

Kerry's intended point was obvious. President Bush didn't do his homework before he ordered the invasion. He didn't study the intricacies of Mideast religion, culture, politics and tribalism. He wasn't smart about it and we are stuck in Iraq.

Although there are plenty of well-educated people in our armed forces -- Kerry was one of them -- military service has long been an opportunity employer for those with less education and fewer skills than they need to work in the private sector. Indeed, the military sells itself as a place to garner skills and to help pay for higher education.

And wars, including this one, are often fought by those less privileged -- albeit no less smart -- than the sons and daughters of those who lead us into them.

Apologies? Sure, from the cut-and-run Democratic candidates who've cancelled appearances with Kerry.



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1 posted on 11/02/2006 10:53:25 AM PST by Stoat
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To: Stoat

2 posted on 11/02/2006 10:55:13 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Stoat
Dear Seattle PI:

"Education-- if you make the most of it and you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you end up defending insulting elitist snobs!

3 posted on 11/02/2006 10:58:14 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jesus Saves~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~muhamhead Slaves)
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To: Stoat

"Indeed, the military sells itself as a place to garner skills and to help pay for higher education."

The above is true, but it is the opposite of what Kerry said. Kerry stated that you will end up in the military if you flunk out. The truth is that starting in the military is what helps you succeed.


4 posted on 11/02/2006 10:59:21 AM PST by linear (Taxonomy is a willing and pliant mistress but Reality waits at home, sharpening her knife.)
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To: Stoat

"Education" Kerry said "-- if you make the most of it and you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck writing editorials for the Seattle P-I for the rest of your life!"


5 posted on 11/02/2006 10:59:39 AM PST by MikeHu
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To: Zuben Elgenubi; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; Marine_Uncle; blam; SunkenCiv; Dog; Coop; ...
Just unreal......

A thread featuring Mia T's work:

PARSING JOHN KERRY, OUR TROOPS: A MESSAGE FOR THE WOBBLY VOTER

6 posted on 11/02/2006 11:00:47 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: All
The real view of the DemonicRat's:

There has never been an American army as violent and murderous as the one in Iraq; ~ Sy Hersh

7 posted on 11/02/2006 11:02:38 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Stoat

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. And then there is the dinosaur media, which goes beyond all of that.


8 posted on 11/02/2006 11:02:48 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Pray for our President and for our heroes in Iraq and Afghanistan, and around the world!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

WHAT ABOUT THE VETERANS ‘JOHN’??


This is an apology?????????

johnkerry.com offers this halfheartedly apology to our dimwitted troops in Iraq and their underprivileged families.

“As a combat veteran, I want to make it clear to anyone in uniform and to their loved ones: my poorly stated joke at a rally was not about, and never intended to refer to any troop. I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform, and I personally apologize to any service member, family member, or American who was offended. It is clear the Republican Party would rather talk about anything but their failed security policy. I don’t want my verbal slip to be a diversion from the real issues. I will continue to fight for a change of course to provide real security for our country, and a winning strategy for our troops.”

John, you apologized to 140 thousand troops and their families. What about the thousand upon thousands of Veterans who have served in uniform since you disgracefully entered the political scene some thirty years ago and began your harangue against the dimwitted, uneducated military members. You, Sir, are a disgrace to the uniform you wore during your three month tour in Vietnam while lost in Cambodia. I, for one, will never forget your disgraceful testimony before Congress while in uniform while our Country was at war. You managed to bamboozle the good citizens of Massachusetts but you haven’t bamboozled this veteran from the Vietnam era, Senator Kerry. Tom, Colonel, USAF (Retired) – a holder of a Bachelor of Arts in Political Science, a Master of Science in Business Management, a graduate of Air Force Air Command and Staff College and a graduate of the Industrial College of the Armed Forces


9 posted on 11/02/2006 11:03:52 AM PST by Doc Hunter
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To: Stoat
Two psychiatrists are walking down the hall. One says to the other, "I noticed myself committing an interesting Freudian slip today. I was having breakfast with my mother, and meant to say, "please pass the salt. Instead, I said, "You ruined my life, you bitch!"


My Apologies to anyone that misinterprets what I said

10 posted on 11/02/2006 11:05:58 AM PST by SmithL (Where are we going? . . . . And why are we in this handbasket????)
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To: Stoat

I *LOVE* that the liberals are lining up to get behind the most henious possible interpretation of this message.


11 posted on 11/02/2006 11:06:11 AM PST by Lazamataz (I love you.... but not in a gay way.)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

I sent them an email thanking them for extending this one more day and ask they do another one Sunday.


12 posted on 11/02/2006 11:06:28 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: Stoat

The MSM shows their contempt for working stiffs and those red-state rubes too dense to appreciate their superior intellect and wisdom.


13 posted on 11/02/2006 11:07:12 AM PST by dirtboy (John Kerry - the world's only re-usable political suicide bomber.)
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To: Stoat
"Education...if you make the most of it and you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq in the U.S. Senate, getting a contact high from Ted Kennedy."

Which, when you think about it, might explain a lot about Big John.

14 posted on 11/02/2006 11:07:21 AM PST by RichInOC (Kerry 2008: "Sometimes...dead is bettah.")
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To All:

I am pleased to say that I convinced my largely apolitical family to discontinue their PI subscription close to 20 years ago.  This rag has been rapidly losing circulation for a very long time.  They have resorted to throwing unsolicited copies of their catbox liner into my yard occasionally, and I keep phoning them to stop it because I view their actions as littering.  No success yet but I'll keep trying.

15 posted on 11/02/2006 11:08:02 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
Kerry wasn't saying -- regardless of the Republican spin -- that our troops are stupid.

He did say, by the rules of logic, that those ""stuck" in Iraq are there because they did not "make the most of it and ... study hard and ... do ... homework, and ... make an effort to be smart." If he didn't say our troops are stupid then he said that they are lazy, at least in the area of learning.

In any case it was an insult from an arrogant pretender.

16 posted on 11/02/2006 11:09:37 AM PST by Poincare
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To: rawcatslyentist; Red Badger; Fiddlstix; <1/1,000,000th%; jokar; polymuser
"Education-- if you make the most of it and you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you end up defending insulting elitist snobs!"

LOL.

I posted this in another thread:

"If you work hard and study hard, you'll do well. If you don't, well, you'll get stuck in a FEMA trailer............"

Great stuff! This could be the first in a long, long list of parodies starting with: "If you work hard and study hard, you'll do well. If you don't, well, you'll be stuck ...."

Here's my shot at it (no where as good as yours, but gotta start somewhere)

"If you work hard and study hard, you'll do well. If you don't, well, you'll be stuck in a ditch with Cindy."

To "polymuser" -- I wrote the above before seeing your contribution. LOL. We're now up to three parodies.


Here's the link: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1730850/posts?page=23#23

We're now up to four parodies, and counting.
17 posted on 11/02/2006 11:11:16 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Doc Hunter
and never intended to refer to any troop

Didn't "troop" used to mean a group, like "platoon" or "battalion" (only smaller I think)? When did it start to mean "soldier"? Or could Kerry have -- hard as it is to believe! -- erred?

18 posted on 11/02/2006 11:11:53 AM PST by maryz
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To: Stoat
Editorials like this is evidence of the deep disconnect between the Drive By Media and the American mainstream. Their contempt for the most admired of American institutions and for American values just shouts out to their readers. My guess is the reaction Tuesday is going to be a tsunami and the clueless Lefty dolts in the Drive Bys won't see it coming.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

19 posted on 11/02/2006 11:11:55 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
Humor is ALWAYS the best response to an insult. That now famous picture - which hasn't been carried by the Drive Bys apart from the New York Post tells us the extent to which they are prisoners of a world view that dates back to the 60s and which emanates visceral contempt for everything most Americans cherish. And these people can be trusted to tell the story of the 2006 elections fairly and accurately? Not if their refusal to print or broadcast this photo can be believed.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

20 posted on 11/02/2006 11:15:58 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Poincare
Its exactly what he was saying and he expected his crowd of elitists to snicker and sneer right along with him.
21 posted on 11/02/2006 11:17:29 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Stoat

Really this is a pretty prudent move on the P-I's part. By defending Ketchup Boy on both sides of the issue, the P-I won't have to retract their statement when the inevitable flip-flop occurs.


22 posted on 11/02/2006 11:19:21 AM PST by CommerceComet
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To: MikeHu; RichInOC; rawcatslyentist; Red Badger; Fiddlstix; <1/1,000,000th%; jokar; polymuser

From my post # 17: "We're now up to four parodies, and counting."

Make that six parodies. Two more posted while I was composing # 17.


23 posted on 11/02/2006 11:19:50 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

"If you work hard and study hard, you'll do well. If you don't, well, you'll get stuck in a CHORUS LINE............"


24 posted on 11/02/2006 11:22:37 AM PST by Red Badger (ECCLESIASTES 10 The heart of the wise inclines to the RIGHT, but the heart of the fool to the LEFT.)
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To: Red Badger

"If you work hard and study hard, you'll do well. If you don't, well, you'll get stuck in a POLICE LINEUP............"


25 posted on 11/02/2006 11:23:27 AM PST by Red Badger (ECCLESIASTES 10 The heart of the wise inclines to the RIGHT, but the heart of the fool to the LEFT.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

"If you work hard and study hard, you'll do well. If you don't, well, you'll get stuck in a Flea Market selling Beanie Babies............"


26 posted on 11/02/2006 11:24:40 AM PST by Red Badger (ECCLESIASTES 10 The heart of the wise inclines to the RIGHT, but the heart of the fool to the LEFT.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
I guess you didn't see my one from yesterday:

"If you work hard and study hard, you'll do well. If you don't, well, you'll get stuck on a roof in New Orleans............"

27 posted on 11/02/2006 11:26:18 AM PST by Red Badger (ECCLESIASTES 10 The heart of the wise inclines to the RIGHT, but the heart of the fool to the LEFT.)
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To: Stoat
"Although there are plenty of well-educated people in our armed forces -- Kerry was one of them"


29 posted on 11/02/2006 11:31:14 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Already voted absentee...straight Republican ticket...best choice on the menu.)
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To: Stoat

When I move to Washington, I am going to do my best to cause these people some grief.


30 posted on 11/02/2006 11:36:36 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: Stoat

520 Newspaper Front Pages -- Only 1 Carries the "Jon Carry" Photo.

Media bias? See for yourself and you decide.
31 posted on 11/02/2006 11:38:20 AM PST by rantblogger
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To: Stoat

Just keep the story in the papers, that's all! :-)


32 posted on 11/02/2006 11:39:25 AM PST by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: Stoat
"SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER EDITORIAL BOARD"

I notice no one took personal responsibility for this piece of crap!

33 posted on 11/02/2006 11:46:35 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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"SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER EDITORIAL BOARD"

I notice no one took personal responsibility for this piece of crap!

Although finding spelling, syntax or punctuation errors is usually pretty easy in drive-by media papers, am I wrong in my recollection that, according to English punctuation rules,  whenever the President of the United States is referred to by using the word 'President', isn't it regarded as proper form to always capitalize 'President'?

If I'm correct in my recollection of this, then the P.I. editorial board apparently didn't follow Kerry's advice in becoming educated:

"Was Kerry making fun of the president, or warning students against the pitfalls awaiting the undereducated in general?"

34 posted on 11/02/2006 12:01:24 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

If you work hard and study hard, you'll do well. If you don't, well, you can marry a desperate, homely, wealthy widow, for her $$$, throw some vets to the wolves with your lies and get elected to congress, then spend the rest of your days pretending you're relevant.


35 posted on 11/02/2006 12:05:14 PM PST by kattracks
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To: Stoat
"Kerry's intended point was obvious."

Even if one accepts Kerry's spin that his comments were a misspoken joke about Bush, it is ludicrous to claim that his real intent was "obvious." This is just one more example of why I cancelled my subscription to the P.O.S. P.I. tenyears ago.
36 posted on 11/02/2006 12:12:17 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Stoat
NASA Hired To Repair Kerry Joke

Houston, TX NASA Administrators will neither confirm nor deny ongoing negotiations with the Democratic National Committee exploring possible repair solutions to John Kerry's severely damaged joke, which was apparently disastrously disfigured upon entry into Earth's atmosphere yesterday. Top NASA engineers, however, have been seen at Houston's airport enroute to Washington with luggage containing duct tape, bailing wire and over 10 pounds of Bazooka-brand bubble gum. Scribblings on a napkin left at the airport and found by this reporter provide a clue as to the direction of thinking...

Joke Repair Proposal #26

If you do all your homework and try hard to be smart about your education, you can do well. If not, you get stuck in Iowa.

37 posted on 11/02/2006 12:13:29 PM PST by O Neill (Aye, Katie Scarlett, the ONLY thing that lasts is the land...)
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To: rawcatslyentist
"Education-- if you make the most of it and you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you end up defending insulting elitist snobs!"

My version: "Education - if you make the most of it and you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you'll end up on the editorial board of the Seattle P.I."
38 posted on 11/02/2006 12:15:39 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: SF Republican
Don't worry...it will definitely continue thru Sunday here.

The PI Opinions page and The Seattle Times Northwest Voices will be nothing but more of this crap...most Sundays, there's at most 2-3 conservative letters to every 12-15 liberal letters.

Many times there are NO conservative letters on certain topics...I suspect this will be one of those topics.

39 posted on 11/02/2006 12:28:17 PM PST by top 2 toe red (To the enemy in Iraq..."Don't bet on American politics forcing my hand!" President Bush)
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To: Stoat

Nazism, communism and journalism are the three primary fields of endeavor that incite large numbers of people who want to rise up and kill you.


40 posted on 11/02/2006 12:29:48 PM PST by sergeantdave (Consider that nearly half the people you pass on the street meet Lenin's definition of useful idiot)
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To: Stoat
I love what Karl Rove said to Ann Compton:

Rove: Insulting Military Is a Kerry 'Habit'
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2621997&page=1

ROVE [replying to Ann Compton]: ... he ought to apologize. Why can he not bring himself to say "You know what? I apologize to America's fighting men and women who took umbrage at my comments." He can't bring himself to do it. In fact, what he does is he suggests that anyone who took umbrage at my remarks is bad. He's attacked people who took his remark as an attack on the military. But wait a minute. The military took his remark as an attack on the military. He ought to simply apologize. Why can he not bring himself to say, "'I'm sorry. I made a mistake. I'm sorry I insulted you. I didn't mean to do it. Will you please accept my apology and move on?" But he can't bring himself to say it.

41 posted on 11/02/2006 12:32:38 PM PST by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus)
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To: SF Republican

42 posted on 11/02/2006 12:33:30 PM PST by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus)
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To: rawcatslyentist
"Education-- if you make the most of it and you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you wind up where you can't even tell a joke without screwing up and having to fall all over yourself not apologizing then apologizing for sounding like the fool you are.

And then having every liberal hack in the entire country come running to your defense because you are such a pathetic, pompous, patronizing, patrician, picayune, pissant.

43 posted on 11/02/2006 12:34:48 PM PST by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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To: Stoat
When their solicitors show up at my door, I take care to point out that not only do I not want to buy their paper, I get most of my news online.
44 posted on 11/02/2006 12:34:50 PM PST by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus)
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Publications like P.I and the Times & Boston Globe all come from the same pond scum bateria- they never apologize for using the N word, the K word or any other racial slurs, nor do they apologize for insulting the GOP and anyone associated with the GOP even the military. The day hard print publications liek them fizzle is the day America celebrates the death of terror coddling extremist garbage media-

Christian news and commentary at: sacredscoop.com ...

45 posted on 11/02/2006 12:42:58 PM PST by CottShop (http://sacredscoop.com)
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To: maryz

Yes, per Merriam-Webster online:
troop
1 a : a group of soldiers
b : a cavalry unit corresponding to an infantry company
c plural : ARMED FORCES, SOLDIERS
2 : a collection of people or things : CREW 2
3 : a flock of mammals or birds
4 : the basic organizational unit of Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts under an adult leader

Scrappleface takes on the same point:

After Botched Apology Kerry Blames Republicans
by Scott Ott
http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2379
(2006-11-01) — During Sen. John Kerry’s most recent hourly news conference, the former Democrat presidential nominee said he was sorry for what he called “a botched apology” posted to his website earlier in the day, that was spurred by his “botched joke” on Monday.

The text of his apology reads, in part…

“As a combat veteran, I want to make it clear to anyone in uniform and to their loved ones: my poorly stated joke at a rally was not about, and never intended to refer to any troop.

I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform, and I personally apologize to any service member, family member, or American who was offended.“

“In the course of my botched apology,” the senator said this evening, “I inadvertently used the word ‘troop’ to refer to a single individual. I also used the word ‘imply’ when I should have used ‘infer’, and I said that I ‘personally apologize’ to anyone who was offended, when in fact, I simply posted a few sentences on the website, addressed to no one in particular.”

“Come to think of it,” he added, “my apology didn’t admit wrong doing, express regret for my actions or offer to make things right. I really just blamed the troops for misunderstanding my joke. So, perhaps ‘apology’ was not the precise term for it.”

Sen. Kerry said his poorly-worded apology, however, does reinforce the premise of his original ‘botched joke’ about bad students being sent to war, since he is a combat veteran.

“The ultimate message of my failed apology,” he said, “is that the Republicans will do anything to divert attention from the quagmire in Iraq, even if it means letting a Democrat Senator scuttle his party’s political strategy on the eve of national elections.”


He also put up a great video, linked here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfQnJqkAydM
"Because of Iraq II"
My favorite line in it: "Because of Iraq, you've had to listen to *this woman*", then he puts up a photo of Cindy Sheehan.
Another great line, "Because of Iraq, the land of opportunity (photo of White House) has become the land of broken dreams," followed by a photo of John Kerry with his head facing the ground.


46 posted on 11/02/2006 12:43:15 PM PST by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus)
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To: GretchenM
Gretchen, this was what I used...

Yours is much better...may I steal it?

47 posted on 11/02/2006 12:48:24 PM PST by bigjoesaddle (If Gandhi were President instead of Ronald Regan, we would be calling one another "Comrade" now.)
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To: kattracks

bingo


48 posted on 11/02/2006 12:50:23 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: bigjoesaddle

All my images are belong to you.


49 posted on 11/02/2006 12:51:38 PM PST by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus)
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To: GretchenM

I love Scrappleface (though it's often so plausible you have to look twice!) -- thanks for posting that!


50 posted on 11/02/2006 12:53:52 PM PST by maryz
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