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Papers sold to military: ‘Rumsfeld must go’ (Unbelievable)
MSNBC ^ | 11-04-2006 | MSNBC Staff

Posted on 11/04/2006 10:22:46 AM PST by AliVeritas

Just days after President Bush publicly affirmed Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's job security through the end of his term, a family of publications catering to the military will publish an editorial calling for the defense secretary's removal.

The editorial, released to NBC News on Friday ahead of its Monday publication date, stated, "It is one thing for the majority of Americans to think Rumsfeld has failed. But when the nation's current military leaders start to break publicly with their defense secretary, then it is clear that he is losing control of the institution he ostensibly leads."

The editorial will appear just one day before the midterm election, in which GOP candidates have been losing ground, according to recent polls

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Just days after President Bush publicly affirmed Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's job security through the end of his term, a family of publications catering to the military will publish an editorial calling for the defense secretary's removal. "It is one thing for the majority of Americans to think Rumsfeld has failed. But when the nation's current military leaders start to break publicly with their defense secretary, then it is clear that he is losing control

Comments: "The newspapers are part of the Military Times Media Group, a subsidiary of the Gannett Co., Inc. The publications are sold to service members and their families."

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1 posted on 11/04/2006 10:22:48 AM PST by AliVeritas
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To: AliVeritas

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2 posted on 11/04/2006 10:24:05 AM PST by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: AliVeritas

they should be banned from being sold on military bases.


3 posted on 11/04/2006 10:25:08 AM PST by balch3
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To: MNJohnnie; Jim Robinson; Peach; sofaman; sono; rodguy911

MSNBC/Richard Perle attack.


4 posted on 11/04/2006 10:27:10 AM PST by AliVeritas (Mr. Webb, who is Melissa Harrington, Dorothy Tran and Joe Cato?)
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To: balch3

Exactly. They are so damn low, at a time of war when none of them have a plan or think they need one.

I'm telling you, if Gonzales or whoever had got off their asses and served the media and 'ex-experts' with sedition or treason charges from the beginning, we wouldn't have this problem.

I'm sure the mag will be filled with anonymous sources as well.


5 posted on 11/04/2006 10:33:10 AM PST by AliVeritas (Mr. Webb, who is Melissa Harrington, Dorothy Tran and Joe Cato?)
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To: Admin Moderator

Please delete my thread, duplicate... thank you.


6 posted on 11/04/2006 10:36:40 AM PST by AliVeritas (Mr. Webb, who is Melissa Harrington, Dorothy Tran and Joe Cato?)
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To: balch3
they should be banned from being sold on military bases.

Banned? You don't think our military personnel can make up their own mind when reading other opinions?

7 posted on 11/04/2006 10:37:05 AM PST by Cagey
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To: AliVeritas
Firstly,I'd be interested in seeing the entire interview of Pearle and Adelman.

Secondly, the Left, including MSNBC, have been carping about the lack of a "plan for victory". I suppose that this "plan" whatever it is,

a) should be set in stone, inviolate, unchangeable as situations on the ground warrant,

b) should be publicized for all the world to see, including the enemy

c) should be publicized so that John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Schmuckie Schumer, Carl Levin, Little Dick Durbin, Dr Demento Dean (that great military strategist) and Lard Ass Murtha can pick it apart publicly, ridicule it and, generally, make it useless.

Are people really that vapidly moronic that they can't see the absolute idiocy and naivety of this argument?

Thanks for the PING!, btw.

8 posted on 11/04/2006 10:42:21 AM PST by sofaman (Pvt 1st Class Joel K. Brattain, 21, 82nd Airborne DIV, KIA 03/13/04. RIP, American Hero.)
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To: balch3

"...they should be banned from being sold on military bases."

So much for our Constitution, in your eyes, apparently.

Kerry thinks our soldiers are dumb; you want to keep them ignorant of the outside world?


9 posted on 11/04/2006 10:45:15 AM PST by truth_seeker
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To: AliVeritas

Eh. I believe the military and their families are a whole lot smarter than these papers assume. And smart people know that the top dogs who shake up the status quo to keep us cutting edge are never going to win any popularity contests either.


10 posted on 11/04/2006 10:48:41 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: balch3

>>they should be banned from being sold on military bases.<<

They can't do that.... but people who recognize this as a pre-election attempt by Gannett can point that out.


11 posted on 11/04/2006 10:50:33 AM PST by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: pollyannaish
And they also know that if they themselves said anything disparaging about Rummy in public, the UCMJ would put their buns in a broiler. Chain of command, donchaknow.

So they probably could draw the inference that the author of such an editorial is definitely not "one of us."

12 posted on 11/04/2006 10:55:45 AM PST by thulldud ("Para inglés, oprima el dos.")
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To: pollyannaish

I would like to know actual source of the article. Maybe it was a pick up from a news service such as AP. As a member of the military for 50+ years, I know something about these publications. This whole thing sounds like a political opinion plant.


13 posted on 11/04/2006 10:56:38 AM PST by hdstmf
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To: thulldud

Good point. The left really does think our military is stupid. But, as we all know, stupid is as stupid does.

LOL.


14 posted on 11/04/2006 10:57:16 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: hdstmf

I agree. For what purpose do you think?

Which is not to say there are not factions within the military that want Rummy out. But in general it appears to me that most of those come from folks whose fiefdoms are threatened. Am I wrong?


15 posted on 11/04/2006 10:59:57 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: AliVeritas

Rumsfeld for President!


16 posted on 11/04/2006 11:11:04 AM PST by Hop A Long Cassidy
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To: AliVeritas
I've been retired from the Navy for quite a few years now,[20?,OMG!],so I haven't read the Navy Times for awhile.

I do remember,however,that we used to call it the "chicken little" newspaper because the sky was always falling on their editorial pages. It was read mostly for the listings of promotions and internal stuff like that.

17 posted on 11/04/2006 11:21:09 AM PST by oldsalt (There's no such thing as a free lunch.)
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Yep. The Navy Times has been like that for a long time now. This one is sure to generate some hot replies but not, naturally, in time to be printed before the election. What a coincidence.

Of course anyone deployed has already voted, so this is aimed at those who are not. I don't think it will change a lot of minds before the election but I guess the editors feel that every little bit helps.

18 posted on 11/04/2006 11:30:40 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: oldsalt

I'm willing to think that our military is plenty smart and these newspaper editors might find their papers rotting on the shelf in the PX and commisaries. Don't anyone think this newspaper is military. It's civilian run. Obviously run by liberal's who think that the military is full of discontents. It's just not so.


19 posted on 11/04/2006 12:17:37 PM PST by encm(ss) (USN Ret.)
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To: AliVeritas

"Army Times, Air Force Times, Navy Times, and Marine Corps Times"


Are all running this story Monday.

"I don't know wether to laugh or vomit"

-Hank Hill


20 posted on 11/04/2006 12:19:02 PM PST by BLS (You'll never know why you're alive until you know what you would die for.)
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