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100% Reporting: Jim Webb(D) 1,143,144 over George Allen(R) 1,140,879

Posted on 11/07/2006 9:31:51 PM PST by jern

Webb defeats Allen by 2,200 votes


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To: Walkingfeather

Frist was the WH's choice.


151 posted on 11/07/2006 10:05:40 PM PST by misterrob (Bill Clinton, The Wizard of "Is")
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To: DAC22

>>Talent down, we are F'ed<<


Call me cynical but I cannot imagine Virginia being settled without lawyers and a recount. I don't think we know tonight either way.


152 posted on 11/07/2006 10:06:07 PM PST by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: INDYNANA

Last I checked Bush is still CIC.

2009 is another matter.


153 posted on 11/07/2006 10:06:45 PM PST by misterrob (Bill Clinton, The Wizard of "Is")
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To: 1035rep
AP said something about the numbers being inverted and numbers different from the officials. I'm still trying to find out what's going on. Do you have any more information?...Allen said somethng about his in his statement - said the news services had "transposed" numbers and he was actually ahead by about 5000 votes, with a few districts still to be counted, but things had been shut down for the night.......
154 posted on 11/07/2006 10:08:11 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: gondramB

the recount will be automatic.


155 posted on 11/07/2006 10:08:11 PM PST by Gabz
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To: RFEngineer
The historical average for a six year itch is 32 house seats and 8 senate seats.

Just a bad year for the Pubs. Regroup and get it done in two.

156 posted on 11/07/2006 10:08:28 PM PST by Bassfan (No cheese please)
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To: khnyny

I dunno. However, Allen is through as a 2008 Presidential candidate even if he manages to pull victory from the jaws of defeat at this point.


157 posted on 11/07/2006 10:08:50 PM PST by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: EDINVA

Actually, it really was a coincidence. Fairfax County (outside of DC, the biggest county in the state) had two of their three absentee ballot "precincts" reported to the State Board of Elections at the same time, and they went:

Central Absentee Precinct ( C008) 2433 Allen - 4708 Webb
Central Absentee Precinct ( C010) 2766 Allen - 4157 Webb

That's what shifted Born Idiot from 1800 down to about 1800 up. Most (not all) of the absentee "precincts" left to count are in counties or cities that Webb won by some amount. The key thing now is the military ballots, and I'm not sure how those are handled. But absentees are (supposed to be) lumped in with these counts.

}:-)4


158 posted on 11/07/2006 10:09:13 PM PST by Moose4 (Baa havoc, and let slip the sheep of war.)
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To: Intolerant in NJ
AP said something about the numbers being inverted and numbers different from the officials. I'm still trying to find out what's going on. Do you have any more information?...Allen said somethng about his in his statement - said the news services had "transposed" numbers and he was actually ahead by about 5000 votes, with a few districts still to be counted, but things had been shut down for the night.......

I need some more info on this ANYONE!!! My sanity depends on it.

159 posted on 11/07/2006 10:10:12 PM PST by Bassfan (No cheese please)
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To: arborath

What for??? Who the hell wants a presidential candidate that can't even carry his own state???


160 posted on 11/07/2006 10:10:17 PM PST by Kath (Luvya Dubya)
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To: khnyny
I'm sure Hillary is very happy tonight about that fact.

Even if Allen had won by a landslide tonight, I would have been scared to death to have had him as our candidate against the Hildebeast.

I think she would have beaten him handly...I shudder to even think that could happen to America.

161 posted on 11/07/2006 10:10:24 PM PST by top 2 toe red (To the enemy in Iraq..."Don't bet on American politics forcing my hand!" President Bush)
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To: jern

and the absentee ballots???? And military ballots????


162 posted on 11/07/2006 10:11:49 PM PST by bpjam (Vote. Vote Now. Drag your neighbors along.)
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To: steve-b

Bob Corker declared winner over Ford in Tenn.


163 posted on 11/07/2006 10:12:06 PM PST by INDYNANA (AMERICA~ BLESS G O D !)
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To: Bassfan

The news services have nothing to do with it right now. The "official unofficial" counts on the Commonwealth's own website shows Allen down 1800 votes, with some absentees and a few straggler precincts left to count. There was a typo on CNN that gave Webb 4000 more votes than he should've had in one county, but that doesn't affect what the State Board of Elections is showing on their own website, and *they* have Webb ahead right now. We'll see how it goes in the morning.

}:-)4


164 posted on 11/07/2006 10:13:22 PM PST by Moose4 (Baa havoc, and let slip the sheep of war.)
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To: Moose4

Unfortunately, I live in Fairfax County .. and have watched it turn blue before my very eyes. It is so painful!

Both Tom Davis and Frank Wolf held their seats, but in the 50%'s v. 60%'s they did in 2004. It was not a GOP year. I am comforted in remembering that it was actualy worse in 1986 for Reagan.


165 posted on 11/07/2006 10:14:07 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: defenderSD

You want to know the truth. All republicans had to do was run on one issue. Intercepting information from terrorist. Instead they ran stupid commericials that sucked about tailhook here.


166 posted on 11/07/2006 10:14:36 PM PST by GoMonster (GO)
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To: Bassfan

"Just a bad year for the Pubs. Regroup and get it done in two."

Hopefully in two the pubs will realize the error of their ways.......moderate, even liberal policies do not make a winning strategy, politically.

The blame lays squarely on the GOP, and the inability to field candidates that a majority of people would vote for.

However, I am not so optimistic. There will be people who blame conservatives for this electoral fiasco.....and they will be wrong.

But, at least we get to laugh at democrats for a couple years. should be amusing starting..........tomorrow!


167 posted on 11/07/2006 10:15:07 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: misterrob

A republican was CIC in 1974 when the Rat House of Representatives pulled the plug on financial support to our South Vietnamese allies.

The Rats in the House took the position then that American military assistance to the South Vietnamese government was "fueling the war" and that withdrawing our support would in fact help end the conflict.

Sound familiar?


168 posted on 11/07/2006 10:15:20 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Intolerant in NJ
Thanks! That is what I thought. I was trying to get more info while I watched the CA races...you saved me the trouble.

I just noticed Corker won and we are taking GA 8 (Shows you how far behind I am)

169 posted on 11/07/2006 10:15:55 PM PST by 1035rep
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To: misterrob

I think we can all agree that the Whitehouse appeasment doctorine made us look weak to the dems and they walked on us.


170 posted on 11/07/2006 10:17:16 PM PST by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: arborath
Allen has two years to rest, heal, regroup, and prepare to win the Republican nomination for President in '08.

I sure hope not. After a certain number of chuckleheaded public moments, a candidate disqualifies himself from the presidency. Allen went over the limit with this campaign.

171 posted on 11/07/2006 10:18:11 PM PST by TChad
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To: Intolerant in NJ

In Isle of Wright County, the vote is 9050 for Webb and roughly 6,400 for Allen. If true, the turnout would be 75% of registered voters compared to just a bit more than 50% turnout for the state. At one time, the listed vote total was 5,050 for Webb and 6,400 for Allen, exactly 4,000 votes different. Something does seem strange about this county.


172 posted on 11/07/2006 10:21:52 PM PST by lazlohollyfeld
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To: RFEngineer

Yes, I really need to listen to Rush tomorrow.


173 posted on 11/07/2006 10:23:16 PM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: lazlohollyfeld

see post 126


174 posted on 11/07/2006 10:28:45 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Hey that's good news there. 5000 is not a lot of votes but it's better than Webb being ahead.


175 posted on 11/07/2006 10:45:17 PM PST by defenderSD (The concept of national martyrdom, combined with nuclear weapons, is extremely dangerous.)
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To: defenderSD

The margin being reported on CNN has swelled to 12k+. Unfortunately we're staring a 51-49 Dem Senate right in the face.


176 posted on 11/07/2006 11:15:51 PM PST by Nova442 ("Cry Havoc and let slip the Dogs of War.")
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To: Gabz; Corin Stormhands; Just A Nobody

Please pray for some of our Iraq vets who are taking the election news pretty hard. Incredibly hard as a matter of fact.

We will Stand The Storm and carry on and we will prevail as God wills it.


177 posted on 11/07/2006 11:42:28 PM PST by Flora McDonald (http://unitedconservatives.blogspot.com/)
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To: gondramB

"Call me cynical but I cannot imagine Virginia being settled without lawyers and a recount. I don't think we know tonight either way."

If it sticks at the current numbers I don't want that. We lambast the hell out of Democrats for similar sorelosermanesque tactics and I don't see any point in being both losers and hypocrits unless we find some real issues to litigate. Given the margin i'd be surprised if we did.


178 posted on 11/07/2006 11:55:19 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: jern

Did we lose the Senate or tie it up?


179 posted on 11/07/2006 11:58:36 PM PST by beckysueb (Pray for President Bush and our country.)
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To: dandelion

Yah, I heard something about absentee ballots not being counted till Thursday...is that right?


180 posted on 11/07/2006 11:59:52 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
A republican was CIC in 1974 when the Rat House of Representatives pulled the plug on financial support to our South Vietnamese allies.

I'm praying to God this won't happen, and I don't think it will, because in 1974, you had a VERY weak Republican President and a HUGE D majority in both houses of Congress. None of that is so now.

I do worry that Republicans will go wobbly now though, especially with weirdos like the supposedly Conservative Walter Jones.

181 posted on 11/08/2006 12:01:37 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: Uncle Vlad

"Allen's political career is over. What a putz."

Over rated to begin with.


182 posted on 11/08/2006 12:02:45 AM PST by truth_seeker
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To: jern

If Allen has any guts he will contest, question is does he have what it takes to fight?


183 posted on 11/08/2006 12:14:37 AM PST by betsyross1776
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To: betsyross1776; Gabz; Flora McDonald; iceskater; Moose4; P8riot; GottaLuvAkitas1; EDINVA; xyz123; ...
If Allen has any guts he will contest, question is does he have what it takes to fight?

When the canvasses are done and the vote is certified, if there is a chance of recovery, Allen will contest.

But to be quite honest, I don't see us recovering 8,000 votes through the absentees or a recount. And if the margin is that wide after the vote is certified, I hope we don't push for a recount.

This has been a long and ugly year. There comes a point when we have to face reality.

If there's ~any~ consolation in this, I think when the RATS wake up from their celebration hangover, they won't like Senator Webb anymore than we will.

184 posted on 11/08/2006 4:43:34 AM PST by Corin Stormhands
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To: meandog
Military votes likely to go to a military man: Webb!

Tell that to the VFW and Vietnam/Gulf War Veterans, both of which endorsed George Allen.

185 posted on 11/08/2006 4:45:56 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: INDYNANA
The Republicans did not do what we elected them to do.

You win the prize for clarity.

That is exactly, EXACTLY correct.

186 posted on 11/08/2006 4:50:05 AM PST by Jim Noble (If we can't leave a democracy behind, we should at least leave the corpses of our enemies.)
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To: Jim Noble

Did we win in Montana? Are we going to hold the Senate?


187 posted on 11/08/2006 4:53:00 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Aquinasfan

No and no.


188 posted on 11/08/2006 4:55:55 AM PST by Jim Noble (If we can't leave a democracy behind, we should at least leave the corpses of our enemies.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

God bless you for being George Allen's strongest supporter on FR, Corin, but I just can't see how it's going to happen unless he's got a bloody miracle up his sleeve. There's only six precincts left and they're generally smaller, except for the Loudoun absentees and that's not going to be a mine of votes for the Allen camp.

Senator Allen made some mistakes, I'll grant that, but honestly, the media broke him in this state. By taking every single thing he did wrong and amplifying it a thousand times--and by publishing baseless, scurrilous charges like those of him being a racist at UVa thirty-five years ago (charges made by a radical anti-smoking Democratic activist, which the DBM NEVER told you)--they gave Born Idiot the push he needed to get over the top. Webb didn't win this election on the issues because he never talked much about the issues. He's a zero, a cipher, a nothing.

Plain and simple, the Washington Compost and the DC media macaca'd George Allen out of a job.

}:-)4


189 posted on 11/08/2006 4:56:25 AM PST by Moose4 (Baa havoc, and let slip the sheep of war.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

With all the talk of the absentee ballots and military vote--do you happen to know if they are alreay included in those totals?


190 posted on 11/08/2006 4:59:15 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: jern

Please remove me from your George Allen ping. I no longer believe he is presidential material. He ran a terrible campaign and I have no intentions of supporting someone who can't even carry his own state.


191 posted on 11/08/2006 4:59:27 AM PST by Kath (Luvya Dubya)
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To: SoftballMominVA

Most of the asbsentees are already in.


192 posted on 11/08/2006 5:00:12 AM PST by Corin Stormhands
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To: Kath

I am the keeper of the list. You're no longer on it.


193 posted on 11/08/2006 5:01:32 AM PST by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands

Too bad...it was a good run but in the end Allen could beat Webb, but he couldn't beat the media. That was my fear from the get-go.


194 posted on 11/08/2006 5:01:44 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: arborath

Win or lose Allen is finished nationaly.


195 posted on 11/08/2006 5:02:10 AM PST by Kath (Luvya Dubya)
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To: Jim Noble
No and no.

That hurts, but God's still in control, and we have to soldier on.

196 posted on 11/08/2006 5:02:49 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Steven W.

Some say absentee ballots are counted and some say they are not. Which is it???


197 posted on 11/08/2006 5:04:41 AM PST by Kath (Luvya Dubya)
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To: Kath
I suggest you unscrew your hellhole of a state before lecturing us about our politicians.

Sen. Allen made some mistakes, but nothing like it's been portrayed on FR. He is a freshman senator in an evenly split state (except for Presidential elections) who only won last time with 52% of the vote. Had FReepers simply supported him, as he deserved, we wouldn't be staring at his likely defeat right now. But for the most part they didn't.

Oh yeah, it's all the GOP's fault. < / sarcasm >

198 posted on 11/08/2006 5:04:59 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Hoodlum91
I totally agree. Mark Earley was pathetic in 2001. The 2005 gov race was Kilgore's to lose and he lost (those Hitler death penalty ads didn't help). It was said on the radio this morning that if Allen had just stayed at home, drinking milk with Oreo cookies and watching The Grand Ol' Opry, he would have won by double digits. I agree with that, too.

On the other hand, I was pleasantly suprised with Drake's win in the 2nd dist. Moveon.org started running ads on TV trashing her back in March, and all the local media was on the Kellam bandwagon.

199 posted on 11/08/2006 5:05:45 AM PST by flair2000
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To: flair2000

Yes, I was glad for Drake--but my favorite race of the night was VA-05 where Goode totalled smoked Weed.


200 posted on 11/08/2006 5:07:02 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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