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To: KC_Lion; BlackElk; Finny; All

You know folks, it’s interesting.

It’s interesting that Reagan says there, all those years ago, exactly the same crap we see today. And it’s interesting that so many freepers who claim to revere him and the founders, find so very many ways to (try to) refute them every single day.

They want to broaden the base through moderation. Some have pushed for easing off on homo/gay/immigration. Some got the zot, others continue spouting their liberalism in post after post. And rather than look to Reagan and the founders for guidance...from the very men who founded and BEST LED this country, they say no. Different time, not the same,dems are evil, blahblahblah...

But here we are with the same issues, the same evil democrats and the same Cheshire Conservatives wanting us to be more like democrats electing their preferred RINOs.

It is tiring to see stupidity repeat so often. And it is tiring to watch the same people repeat the same nonsense. We all have access to the same info. Conservatism isn’t rocket surgery. It is very basic.

People have to start applying that info. Things cannot be two ways. People like Rand Paul cannot be out there fully backing people like Mitch and being called conservative. People like Perry cannot one day fight against border fences during invasions and then stand there bitching about the Obama policies the fences would have prevented from even allowing to be proposed...there would be far fewer illegals for him to use against America.

This is all material that is documented daily on FR. Has been for years. Openly. On the front page. So when you see a freeper posting how Paul is really a conservative worth voting for, or a Perry is a potential candidate, what you are seeing in reality is one of the people that Reagan says should go their own way. they are not conservative when they push for liberals. A 2 year old can figure that much out.

The other thing we have to accept is that there are no magic bullets. We are going to lose some. It will suck. But those screaming “purist” and the like do not want what we want. They want moderation.

The sooner we rid ourselves of the people blocking our progress, the sooner we can return to principle and move ahead rather than fighting this war within.


106 posted on 06/05/2014 9:45:59 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Fantastic Post!!!
107 posted on 06/05/2014 9:49:01 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Norm Lenhart; KC_Lion; Colonel_Flagg; All; BlackElk
Excellently well said.

... the same Cheshire Conservatives wanting us to be more like democrats electing their preferred RINOs. It is tiring to see stupidity repeat so often. And it is tiring to watch the same people repeat the same nonsense. We all have access to the same info. Conservatism isn’t rocket surgery. It is very basic.

So true that Reagan in this speech boils down those basics and they are absolutely as timely and current today as they were nearly 40 years ago. IT IS THAT BASIC.

We had BETTER ANTICIPATE NOW being in the same position as we were in Nov, 2012, because it's totally unrealistic to think that the GOP won't end up fielding a leftist "moderate" Republican ala Romney in 2016. That's two years away. Only a miracle would turn the GOP power players around in that short of time. I think all of us, including Rush, Levin, and any other self-defined conservative, should be seeing that one coming a mile away and considering strategies now to make the best of it.

We need a 2nd Party. Americans are yearning for a 2nd Party. Reagan nails it so gently, so sweetly -- Americans see the two major parties as being one and the same, and are voting OR NOT accordingly.

Personally, I think the term SECOND PARTY is doubly apropos because the support for the 2nd Amendment is probably the most shared issue between left and right-thinking folks; a lot of Democrats are as pro-gun as so many conservatives and Republicans.

I like Black Elk's philosophy. God loves us yet.

116 posted on 06/05/2014 6:25:28 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Norm Lenhart

^5


121 posted on 06/05/2014 8:46:00 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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