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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 12 November 2006
Various big media television networks ^ | 12 November 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 11/12/2006 4:58:59 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

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To: marajade

#620, he says he already has it.


841 posted on 11/12/2006 3:57:17 PM PST by samantha (Cheer up,the Adults are in charge,but need reinforcements very soon.)
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To: Txsleuth
Billy the kid just being slick, but he fools no one here.
842 posted on 11/12/2006 3:57:51 PM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: kabar
Can you ever recall the Dems not supporting a nominee of their party?

Yes. In the case of a black nominee (Carl McCall) running for governor of NY State against George Pataki in 2002. The DNC wouldn't give him any money. Rush started a sympathy campaign and asked each of his listeners to send Carl McCall a nickel.

843 posted on 11/12/2006 4:13:22 PM PST by BusterBear
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To: Mr Rogers
#660, you call coherant someone that spends the entire thread complaining,bellyaching,bleating with nothing but negative points. sounds like some of what Pat Buchanan is selling you bought lock stock and barrel. Just because you are freaked out by living close to Mexico, most people who live that close do not eat,sleep and breathe negativity. Come up with something positive, I dare you.......You sound like you need meds more than Nancy needs Botox. Instead of getting more and more bummed out by negativity think of some good things like Republicans will be able to take back the House and Senate in two years and will win the Presidency. You can do it,try small steps at first. Surprise the entire thread, think of something pleasant......
844 posted on 11/12/2006 4:13:38 PM PST by samantha (Cheer up,the Adults are in charge,but need reinforcements very soon.)
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To: Angelas

Thank you for posting that, (I think..lol).

If they are going to impeach Bush and Cheney, based on the "they lied" offense...I wonder how many DEM congresscritters their lawyers would call that said the EXACT same thing...especially BILL CLINTON.


845 posted on 11/12/2006 4:15:08 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Miss Marple
And, his arrogant comments after the election may have made him feeel better, but he has lost me as a listener forever.

He'll survive.

846 posted on 11/12/2006 4:17:37 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: gov_bean_ counter

WOW...what a great post.

You are so right about the Republicans leaving Pres. Bush high and dry during much of his presidency.

THEN, when I listen to Bill Kristol say today that the "Republicans" he has talked to..blame Bush and are going to distance MORE...it makes me sick.

Of course he is probably talking about Graham and McCain..Graham for SURE...


847 posted on 11/12/2006 4:18:08 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: johnny7

#680, I only listened for five minutes when I was in my car and did not want to bother to change the Station for a short ride. I tried to ignore him,but his insanity just crept into my brain and I lunged for the dial to turn it off. I would rather hear nothing/silence than nutsy.


848 posted on 11/12/2006 4:24:13 PM PST by samantha (Cheer up,the Adults are in charge,but need reinforcements very soon.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Charles Rangel will back ALL of the Homeland Security Spending he can get....unless any of it goes to Mississippi.


849 posted on 11/12/2006 4:26:56 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: OldFriend

Sean Hannity played outtakes Friday of Sharpton on H&C the night before. Sickening....


850 posted on 11/12/2006 4:27:48 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: rodguy911

Maybe we can't take him "down" per se...but, maybe we can EXPOSE him to the rest of America that are not paying as close of attention as we are??


851 posted on 11/12/2006 4:29:30 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Miss Marple

Miss Marple,

The President giving speeches on the campaign trail is not the same thing as him giving a speech from the Oval office.

Perhaps my comment did not make this clear but seriously, after a major disaster like Katrina I do think either a press conference or a talk to the American people from the Oval office or other serious venue would be warranted.

Same for updates on the Iraq war.

All of the media covers this sort of thing and that is what I meant.

More important in my post is the NEED for this President to communicate, not necessarily MORE, but MORE EFFECTIVELY.

They give Bush two or three phrases and all he does is repeat these phrases but with different emphasis.

The whole point of my comment, and hey I could be wrong as there's always things going on that us minions don't know about, is that the President, indeed the entire Republican party, needs to be a bit more honest and SAY WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.

Two great examples are how they let the mantra that Katrina was a FEDERAL booboo and the Weapons of Mass Destruction...NOT. Sure Rush and the conservative pundits tried to get the truth out but some things you need the LEADERS to grow some gonads and say what has to be said.

This sadsack pubbie congress does not and it's why so many things got out of hand these past two years. Some good, solid and honest rhetoric would have changed the course of events this past Tuesday, I'm sure of it.

I sure don't think firing Donald Rumsfeld the day after the midterms was a smart move but then that's a whole different topic.


852 posted on 11/12/2006 4:30:50 PM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com)
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To: samantha

ROFLMAO!!


853 posted on 11/12/2006 4:32:28 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: MNJohnnie
They will use Homeland Security to take away more of our rights, too. The very things they said the GOP was doing and used to keep the left riled up against the GOP for the past 5 years.

They need to take away things for the "common good" to maintain control of the uneducated masses and their votes. They need to perpetuate Socialism to buy the votes and whatever else they can conjure up to keep control.... yes! we need Newt Gingrich more than anyone even knows.

854 posted on 11/12/2006 4:32:50 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Txsleuth

I haven't read the book. I've seen excerpts on FR.


855 posted on 11/12/2006 4:33:33 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Alas Babylon!

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856 posted on 11/12/2006 4:38:44 PM PST by hattend (Carpe Macaca)
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To: altura
We are experiencing a backlash now against the slow, pervasive, but hitherto almost unnoticed entrance of Mexican influence into our culture. One of the most irritating things to many of us is so much stuff being in Spanish now.

I agree and I disagree at the same time.  I don't want our government to go too far as I'm afraid that it will lead to Spanish (or Chinese or some other language) being required instead of English.  However, I understand the inclination to be inclusive.  My heritage is Scots/German.  My forebears had been invaded and conquered (or did the invading and conquering) so many times they had lost count.  They survived and they adopted the things from each culture that suited them, if it worked and that made sense.  We have always thrived by taking in and adopting the best of the peoples from wherever.  I wish to continue that tradition.  If it works.  If it makes sense.

You know that old song "We Are The World?"  Well, guess what, we are the world here in America.  Unlike anywhere else we are a country made up of people from virtually every other place and culture on the planet.  We've gotten where we are by finding what was good in each of those cultures and peoples and incorporating them into who we were.  What we can't let happen is allow the PC crowd to balkanize us and put us into competing camps.  We must call out the folks from La Raza and La Reconquista and call them what they are, racist invaders.  But we must also make the point that we don't see all Mexicans (even illegals) that way, so long as they want to be Americans, not simply Mexicans who happen to live here. or worse, people here to reclaim "their land."

Our compatriots in Great Britain are faced with much the same question as we are because of their former status as an empire.  They have magnanimously allowed people from their former colonies to immigrate to the British isles and settle in.  Unfortunately it appears that they have not been successful in making many of those people, primarily the Muslims, part of their culture but instead they have allowed them to remain separate and, it appears, hostile.  We are in the same danger primarily from the illegal Hispanic populations who have been crossing our southern border unimpeded, but also from seperatist Muslim enclaves that we have allowed to flourish here, such as John Conyers district.  President Bush has tried to bring those people into our culture and our society, but like his attempt to forestall a full scale world war with the Islamic fundamentalists I'm afraid he has failed.

I lament that we have probably one of the most illiterate general populations about the languages and cultures that have made up this polyglot that is America.  We are no longer taught about the Anglo Saxon heritage of our "founding fathers" (those evil dead white men), but we also aren't taught true stories about all of the other people that have made up our culture.  All of them are presented as victims of the white man, not vital contributors to the greater whole that is us.  I claim Nikola Tesla and George Washington Carver as my own countrymen.  I also claim Jim Thorpe, Sitting Bull, Buffalo Bill Cody, Jim Bridger and Sacajawea, along with Martin Luther King and Malcolm X (after he broke with the Nation of Islam over their insane racism, for which Calypso Louis arranged his murder).  I admire Jeb Bush and his wife, whom he met in her home town in Mexico, and hope someday to vote for George P. Bush, their bilingual Hispanic son, for some high office, maybe even President (45 or 46?).  I see lots to admire in all of the people and cultures that make up our nation, not instead of white Anglo Saxon protestants, but in addition to that legacy.  I regret that I don't speak any other languages and would hope that we get more educated in that area as it will only help us all to do better.

And did you know that the "North American Union" of Mexico, the US and Canada that so many are complaining about now was one of Ronald Reagan's long term goals?  He saw our nations coming together under the principles that had made the US great and expanding our greatness, not surrendering it to "alien invaders."  Mexico could and should be a wealthy nation with a large prosperous middle class and virtually no underclass.  They would be if they lived under our system and laws and not the corrupt oligarchy that has been allowed to flourish there for far too long.  What we have to guard against is that we export our system to them and not the other way around.  This election is a step in the wrong direction for that goal.

My father was raised in the deep south and I am named for his father who was county sheriff in the middle of the depression in one of the most notorious counties in Mississippi.  He served only one term as sheriff because "he had no truck with the Klan," as he put it.  It's said that he's the only sheriff in Mississippi history who came out of office poorer than he went in, but that's because he wouldn't turn anybody down who needed help, white, black, Indian or whatever.  I'm proud of that heritage.  My mother was born on and raised on Indian reservations throughout this country because her father was with the BIA.  He was the kind of Indian agent they didn't show in the movies, though.  He stood up to the government when they tried to send condemned beef rejected by the Army to feed the Indians.  He didn't have one of the greatest careers in that bureaucracy, either.  But he also homesteaded in the Wind River area of Wyoming and helped found the town of Riverton.  I am very proud of my Scots/German heritage from both of my parents families.  My wife has similar heritage and therefore my children do too.  But I have insisted on impressing on our children that they should understand and learn from as many cultures as they can and take from the those things that are good and reject those things that are not.  That is what I am most proud of about my kids.  They got that lesson right (at least so far).

857 posted on 11/12/2006 4:40:05 PM PST by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: Txsleuth
For sure sleuth. That needs to be done all the time.
858 posted on 11/12/2006 4:41:01 PM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Fishtalk
We need leaders who come out and state the truth.

A few more examples:

Why did the President chastise Ashcroft when Ashcroft released the memo about the wall? The wall was one of the main reasons we didn't prevent 9/11. But releasing the memo made the Clinton Administration look bad. Horrors.

Why the cover up about Able Danger?

Why did Sandy Burgler get away with a slap on the wrist?

Why haven't the leakers and publishers of classified national security info been prosecuted?

Why did the Administration lose its nerve about confirming Saddam's intent to obtain yellowcake? Everything Bush said about it in the State of the Union was true and has been confirmed by two independent commissions (British and American).

Why was David Kaye prevented from talking to the American press about the transfer of WMD to Syria? He was allowed to talk to the British press about it.

And so on.

859 posted on 11/12/2006 4:41:54 PM PST by BusterBear
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To: Txsleuth
Hugh Hewitt had a thread Friday night on his blog about a conference phone call between members of congress... here is the link and excerpt:

http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/

8) You left out the White House. Any anger left for them? First, a little anecdote. Along with a host of other bloggers, I was on a conference call with Representative Jack Kingston of Georgia on Wednesday. I usually don’t write anything about these conference calls because they’re reliably dull as dishwater. But this one actually had an interesting moment. Kingston let on how a bunch of Republican members of the House have grown pretty tired carrying water for the administration, and suggested that the water-carrying days are over. (I’m paraphrasing, but I’m sure the other bloggers on the call can verify the rough sentiment.)

The cracks in the relationships that the Bush administration has with just about everybody are beginning to show. As the administration enters its lame duck phase, it’s going to be pretty short on friends.

860 posted on 11/12/2006 4:41:59 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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