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Election helped Clinton, but may have helped Obama more
Newsday ^ | 11/13/06

Posted on 11/13/2006 6:46:44 AM PST by presidio9

The Democratic gains in the midterm elections buoyed Hillary Rodham Clinton's chances of taking the White House in 2008, her backers say. The problem is that it may have helped Barack Obama even more.

Clinton's re-election victory in New York silenced critics who said she'd never be able to win over Republicans, independents or cultural conservatives. She racked up 67 percent of the statewide vote, triumphing in Republican-leaning Long Island burbs and upstate cities where she was soundly beaten in 2000.

And the Democratic victories in Ohio's Senate and governor's races sparked hopes among her supporters that front-runner Clinton can capture a state that decided the 2004 election in George W. Bush's favor.

On the other hand, Obama, an Illinois state senator two short years ago, has leveraged what was essentially a cheerleader's role in 2006 into a national phenomenon with implications for 2008. He now runs second to Clinton in most polls.

"If Barack Obama gets into this race, he'll be a very serious candidate and he could win the nomination," said Simon Rosenberg of the New Democrat Network, which collaborated with Clinton on an affordable-housing initiative. "I love Hillary Clinton, but I'd love to see him run."

Obama has said he'll decide whether to run by early next year; Clinton hasn't set a timetable, but will soon begin canvassing operatives in primary states to see if a run is feasible, according to campaign sources.

If last week's vote was a

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1 posted on 11/13/2006 6:46:48 AM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9

I want my Hillary!

Think of the fun watching her debate!

Oh, we'll have a field day with all the stupid things she'll say.


HILLARY HILLARY HILLARY HILLARY HILLARY!


2 posted on 11/13/2006 6:49:18 AM PST by Fighting Irish (My opinions have been forged by where I've walked - not by who I hear on the radio)
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To: presidio9
Clinton's re-election victory in New York silenced critics who said she'd never be able to win over Republicans, independents or cultural conservatives.

What's considered a conservative in New York state is roundly mocked and laughed at where the term actually means something.

3 posted on 11/13/2006 6:52:32 AM PST by edpc (Violence is ALWAYS a solution. Maybe not the right one....but a solution nonetheless)
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To: presidio9

We should concentrate on our own candidate. We can't run a token "Bob Dole" (God bless him) or just be anti-Clinton.


4 posted on 11/13/2006 6:54:00 AM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: presidio9
Clinton's re-election victory in New York silenced critics who said she'd never be able to win over Republicans, independents or cultural conservatives.

Uh........NYC is so liberal, it's almost a dictatorship. Who said the Republicans in Upstate voted for her? Her campaign manager? Conservatives in NY despise the low life shyster from Arkansas.

5 posted on 11/13/2006 6:58:03 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: presidio9

It's this way. You either love Hillary, or you hate her. There is no "bipartisanship."


6 posted on 11/13/2006 7:01:10 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: presidio9

a clinton/obama ticket would be unbeatable.


7 posted on 11/13/2006 7:06:31 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: camle

They would certainly get NY and IL.


8 posted on 11/13/2006 7:11:23 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: presidio9

If the nominee is Obama or Clinton, the Repubs will win in 08. Neither candidate can win, I don't care how much money they have.


9 posted on 11/13/2006 7:16:10 AM PST by Tulane
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the republicnas have nothing similar in their arsenal. obama has zero negatives, and the press won't let any of the hildebeast's get any serious airplay.

anyone on the republican side will have their splashed all over the place until they become inseperable - true or not.

clinton/obama will not only unite the dems, rather than split them, but will position obama to take over in 2016 - after he gains some experience.


10 posted on 11/13/2006 7:17:10 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: camle

Seriously?


11 posted on 11/13/2006 7:17:10 AM PST by Tulane
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To: camle

Then you obviously haven't been following the news if you think he has no negatives. It is coming out now about corruption in IL that puts him right in the center.

Cannot believe how fast some of you are willing to say a candidate has zero negatives or is unbeatable when this man is just now being put under the microscope.

Following Oprah's lead?


12 posted on 11/13/2006 7:27:52 AM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Thanks Aggies for your 12th Man!)
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To: Tulane

Obama scandals are just now starting to surface in IL. If anyone doesn't think the Clintons will take him out, think again. They want someone running for VP that will not threaten her in any way with publicity IMHO!


13 posted on 11/13/2006 7:29:18 AM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Thanks Aggies for your 12th Man!)
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To: camle
a clinton/obama ticket would be unbeatable.

Maybe not. It could be seen as so pandering and contrived, it could turn people off.

Then.....there's Bill. Remember that lying, disgusting old man? He'll be coming with her.

14 posted on 11/13/2006 7:29:54 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: presidio9

What has this guy ever done, except for confusing Josh Belton with John Bolton?


15 posted on 11/13/2006 7:30:20 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: PhiKapMom

i didn't say obama was unbeatable - i said the team was.


16 posted on 11/13/2006 7:33:56 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: concerned about politics

my bet is that if the two of them can get together we'd be doomed. it'll be tough enough to beat her alone.


17 posted on 11/13/2006 7:34:45 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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Absolutely no one gets to be a Senator in Illinois without paying people off. Durbin is in office because over 70% of his financial backing is from trial lawyers. Obama has something in his past, you can bet on it. The land deal with Tony Rezko is just the tip of the iceberg. The problem is that the MSM will NEVER report anything bad about the man they want as President.


18 posted on 11/13/2006 7:37:28 AM PST by Merry
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To: presidio9

If I were Senator Obama, I don't think I'd fly in anything smaller than a jumbo jet, or go strolling in Fort Marcy park, if you know what I mean...


19 posted on 11/13/2006 7:51:24 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Second To None!)
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To: presidio9

Maybe Obama can borrow Harold Ford Jr's rebel flag and hunting hat?


20 posted on 11/13/2006 7:56:32 AM PST by Sybeck1
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