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To: Sunsong

I've not involved myself in the various criticisms of Warren much. Attended Saddleback once to check it out.

But in this particular case, he is giving the pulpit to a man who is worse than a heathen...someone who espouses a leftwing pseudo-Christianity that is quite hostile to biblical Christianity, dangerous to the country, and destructive to anyone who gets sucked in by it.

If I was a member of this particular local body of believers, I would be having a serious chat with the pastors.


275 posted on 11/16/2006 11:16:21 PM PST by EternalVigilance (I'll stop believing in fences when they tear down the one around the White House...)
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To: EternalVigilance
Hey, pleasantly surpised to read a reasonable post to me from you :-). Thanks.

I put the onus on Obama here. He is using Warren for his politcal ends - and it's really a pretty brilliant move. People ought to watch Obama like a hawk. He is charismatic - has a wonderful speaking voice and if he can fool a bunch of moderate Christians - he well could become President of the United States!

277 posted on 11/16/2006 11:30:10 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: EternalVigilance
Where did you see anywhere in the story or in the weblink I provided above to Saddleback's website that Obama is going to be in the pulpit? This is a conference being held at a church (Saddleback) with over 30 other speakers and hosts who will be speaking on the topic of AIDs. If Rick Warren thinks that Obama has something important to say about the subject, then I will give him the benefit of the doubt to hear the guy out. If Obama has no problem coming into a conservative SBC church in the heart of Republican Orange County and speaking I have no problem with that.

But, then again, Jesus taught me that He came not for the righteous but for the unrighteous. Oh yeah, pssttt! Keep this quiet, but He also said it is ok for sinners to come to church too.

278 posted on 11/16/2006 11:37:55 PM PST by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: EternalVigilance
But in this particular case, he is giving the pulpit to a man who is worse than a heathen...someone who espouses a leftwing pseudo-Christianity that is quite hostile to biblical Christianity, dangerous to the country, and destructive to anyone who gets sucked in by it.

That's a concern of mine as well. I think it's a huge mistake to allow Obama an opportunity to speak in Warren's church.

293 posted on 11/17/2006 6:44:49 AM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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