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To: Zhangliqun

I guess you got me there. Asking for a plan for the future from those who insist on living in the past is somehow anti-____ (you fill in the blank hotshot). I stand humbled.


201 posted on 11/16/2006 7:19:15 PM PST by VaMarVet
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To: VaMarVet

"Asking for a plan for the future from those who insist on living in the past is somehow..."

THOSE WHO DO NOT LEARN FROM HISTORY ARE DOOMED. (Like the caps? Like the sagacious reframing of a classic line? ).

VaMar, shoddy arguments reflect shoddy thinking. Make a case, and leave off with the Jr. High name-calling. This site is about Grad School Name-calling. Get with it.


251 posted on 11/16/2006 8:15:08 PM PST by Humble Servant (Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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This is an update that I have received concerning time frames:

It happened either this past Monday or Tuesday. I talked to his wife Wednesday morning and she said that his unit was going into the sector of the city where the sickness was rampant in order to weed out the insurgents who were firing mortars and RPGs into their position.

As I said earlier, the insurgents claimed that the Americans "gassed" the Iraqi's, inciting a lot of backlash towards David's unit, resulting in the gunfire and mortars being fired at the 5/14 soldiers. For the insurgents to use the term "gassed" makes me think they knew of the WMDs and their location beneath the weapons cache.

That comment that the Iraqis accused the Americans of gassing people shows they knew something was going on, not just propaganda.

312 posted on 11/17/2006 3:17:29 AM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: VaMarVet

Still avoiding the issue. We OBVIOUSLY have to talk in great depth about strategy and tactics. But there's no reason we can't walk and chew gum at the same time by devising a strategy and by holding accountable the appeasers in high places who will do everything they can to DERAIL any such strategy.

All the talk in the world on a strategy for victory is useless if the public isn't galvanized behind the effort and the reflexively anti-war crowd isn't finally shunted back off to the lunatic fringe, otherwise the slightest setback makes everyone want to quit and elect more appeasers.

I'm guessing you want to hear what I think, and one part of it is that we have to interdict insurgent supply lines that make them viable, most of which are coming out of Syrian and Iran. Sooner or later, barring a revolution by the Iranian people, war with Iran is inevitable.

And this is precisely why the Home Front is the most crucial theater in the war: only a public as hardcore behind the war effort as it was in WW2 will make it possible for us to get enough troops to fight on several fronts. The Appeaso-crats who want us to believe in their nihilist/relativist/post-modern way that there is no such thing as treason or sedition, only "dissent", will make that impossible as long as they are in the majority.


346 posted on 11/17/2006 9:37:58 AM PST by Zhangliqun (The fetal position has yet to scare a bully.)
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