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Republican Nuts Fall Off the Tree
Human Events. ^ | November 17, 2006 | Jay D. Homnick

Posted on 11/18/2006 7:45:59 PM PST by Reagan Man

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To: IronJack
Republican Nuts Fall Off.

So true. Great stuff, IronJack.

41 posted on 11/18/2006 9:48:31 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Lancey Howard
April 13, 2005

DEMOCRATIC STRATEGISTS ISSUE MEMO ON LOSS OF CATHOLICS

Washington, DC, (Culture of Life Foundation/CWNews.com) - A memo authored by a prominent Democratic strategy organization calls the decline in support of white Catholics for Democrats "striking" and "a big part of the 2004 election story." One of the analysis' key findings is that Catholic voters are becoming more pro-life, which the authors called "a factor in the recent losses and one of the blockages for Democrats, at least in the Midwest."

The data also reveals that young Catholics are more pro-life than their parents and that bishops who speak out against pro-abortion politicians help bolster the pro-life vote.

The abortion issue is particularly potent for a group called "Democratic defectors" who either identified themselves as Democrats or voted for Bill Clinton in 1996 but voted for President Bush in the last election. Among this group, "26 percent believe that abortion should be illegal in all cases, nearly three times the number for all Catholic Democrats."

The memo was issued by Democracy Corps, a research and tactical advice organization founded by Democrat strategy virtuosos James Carville, Stanley Greenberg and Bob Shrum. Titled "Reclaiming the White Catholic Vote," it is based on data from a nationwide survey of more than 1,000 white Catholic voters.

The decline in the white Catholic vote has been steady over the last decade. Clinton won it by seven percentage points; Al Gore lost it by seven points; and Sen. John Kerry lost it by 14 points. The data provided in the report provides a fascinating window into the much discussed Catholic vote and makes it clear Democrats are losing ground because of their stance on a range of cultural issues.

It turns out that one of the most contentious and visible issues in the 2004 election, the denial of the Eucharist to pro-abortion politicians, did not hurt the pro-life side as many said it would.

The poll found that when white Catholics were asked whether or not they were more or less likely to vote for a Democrat that "is denied Communion by the area's bishop for voting to support abortion rights" 49 percent said they were less likely while 33 percent said they were more likely.

The memo also made it clear that the abortion issue is not going away. "Although the pro-life position is strongest among seniors, Catholics' current pro-life position does not appear likely to lessen with time.

While middle-age Catholics lean toward keeping abortion legal, voters under 30 are more pro-life: 53 percent believe abortion should be illegal in most cases." The pro-life position could be a winning one for Democrats according to the study.

Fifty-nine percent of white Catholics say they are more likely to support a Democratic candidate who is pro-life and 35 percent say they are less likely, giving a pro-life Democrat a 24 point advantage. Even on the East Coast where Catholics are less pro-life, a pro-life Democrat has a 12 point advantage over a pro-abortion candidate.

The memo advises Democrat candidates to get around the issue by presenting themselves as one who "[b]elieves in a woman's right to choose but believes all sides should come together around the common goal of preventing and reducing the number of abortions, with more sex ed, including abstinence, access to contraception and more adoption."

This common ground approach is reminiscent of a recent speech given by New York Senator and likely presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton, in which she softened her approach to abortion by calling it a "tragic choice." In the speech she said faith-based abstinence should be embraced but also called on increased funding for "family planning services," a euphemism for contraception, abortifacients, and abortions.

SOURCE http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=36492

42 posted on 11/18/2006 9:51:10 PM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: All
Repubs embrace social conservatives BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY CAN'T WIN WITHOUT THEM (as Nov 7 proved). Read on.

MAJOR STUDY BY THE PEW FORUM ON RELIGION AND PUBLIC LIFE:

Republicans Can't Win Without Christian Conservatives

SOURCE: http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:QS6fK2c8AP0J:pewforum.org/events/index.php%3FEventID%3D115

Americans who regularly attend worship services and hold traditional Christian religious views increasingly vote Republican, while those who are less connected to religious institutions and more secular in their outlook tend to vote Democratic, according to a major study by the Pew Forum.

Some of the conclusions of this report were already evident in 2004 exit polling data. For example, voters who attend church more than once a week (16 percent of all voters) chose Bush over Kerry by a margin of 64 – 35 percent.

Likewise, those who attend Christian denominational Churches on a weekly basis (26 percent of voters) supported the President by a 58 – 41 percent margin. Also very telling, those who never attend Church (15 percent of voters) overwhelmingly supported Kerry 62 – 36 percent.

The study further found that traditionalist elements within each religion tended to vote Republican, while modernist groups within the religions trended towards the Democrats. A multiple regression analysis of exit poll and public opinion survey data from 2000 and 2004 enabled the Pew Research Center to assign a relative weight to various demographic markers.

Interestingly, church attendance was tied with race as the most significant factor. But even that number is deceiving; in that race is only an important factor due to the high level of support the Democrats receive from black voters.

These trends represent a major shift over the past forty-five years. White Christian Evangelicals in 1960 favored Democrats by a two-to-one margin; now they are Republican by a 56 – 27 percent margin. Seventy-eight percent of them voted for President Bush in 2004.

In 1960, 71 percent of Catholics were Democrats and now Democrats have only a slight edge among Catholics (44 – 41 percent) and Catholics voted for President Bush (52 – 47 percent) in 2004. These trends have also brought an increased acceptance of religion in the public square.

While Americans do tend to favor the separation of church and state, 70 percent of voters want their President to have strong Christian religious beliefs. Likewise, the study reveals that 52 percent of Americans believe that Christian churches should express political views. Surprisingly, support for political involvement of churches is strongest among younger voters age 18 to 29 (59 percent).

43 posted on 11/18/2006 9:56:24 PM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: EternalVigilance
>>>>>Brilliantly written stuff!

Yes indeed.

Appears there are some FReepers who are still extremely angry about the election outcome. Tough to figure out why. For the last 12-15 months many of us have been warning of the dire consequences Republicans could face on November 7th, should Bush and the GOP keep ignoring their conservative base.

44 posted on 11/18/2006 9:59:02 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Reagan Man

The staffers must think Bush is a nut as well. With the exception of a reported story of Bush calling Ken Blackwell a nut, I've never heard of Bush sharing this view. Bush denied the report.


45 posted on 11/18/2006 9:59:42 PM PST by Rumple4
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To: Reagan Man

Bingo.


46 posted on 11/18/2006 10:03:23 PM PST by Antoninus (The greatest gift parents can give their child is siblings.)
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To: Reagan Man

Yep. Thanks for being a consistent voice for conservative principle.


47 posted on 11/18/2006 10:05:23 PM PST by EternalVigilance (I'll stop believing in fences when they tear down the one around the White House...)
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To: pgkdan
I heard all this becaue I was travelling and kept losing the station I'd be listening too and in western NC and VA there's plenty of Cristian radio...I must have found this guy on these stations 5 or 6 times in a day period. He was also on FNS and CNN and his book came out 2 or 3 weeks prior to the elcetion and has heavily promoted on Christian radio. I think he had an effect.

Exactly. I heard him all over the place before the election--including on Medved.

And based on the actions (or non-actions) of the administration on social conservative issues, it's altogether too easy to believe Kuo's thesis.
48 posted on 11/18/2006 10:06:01 PM PST by Antoninus (The greatest gift parents can give their child is siblings.)
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To: EternalVigilance
>>>>Thanks for being a consistent voice for conservative principle.

Right backatcha!

49 posted on 11/18/2006 10:09:28 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Howlin
Now ask yourself why some sanctimonious "conservatives" spend all their time telling us what WE did wrong.

Because if you can't identify the problem, you'll never find the solution. Here's the problem for the Rove/Rice/Guliani wing of the GOP: You can't expect religious people to vote for you if you laugh at them, lie to them, and screw them over time and again. We're not the rubes you think we are.
50 posted on 11/18/2006 10:10:32 PM PST by Antoninus (The greatest gift parents can give their child is siblings.)
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To: Liz

This is the first I have seen of this. "One of the party's major errors was to let loose pro-abort, gay-worshipping Rudy Giuliani. The RNC paraded Giuliani around to campaign for numerous Republicans. To a man, all of them went down to defeat." Doesn't bode well for his presidential aspirations, if true.


51 posted on 11/18/2006 10:12:50 PM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Reagan Man
Appears there are some FReepers who are still extremely angry about the election outcome. Tough to figure out why. For the last 12-15 months many of us have been warning of the dire consequences Republicans could face on November 7th, should Bush and the GOP keep ignoring their conservative base.

Now that the election is over, I don't mind saying that I called the November bloodbath as early as the Arlen Specter confirmation as Judiciary Chair.
52 posted on 11/18/2006 10:15:25 PM PST by Antoninus (The greatest gift parents can give their child is siblings.)
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To: Howlin

I would think that with the historical precedent of major loses in any president's 6th year one could argue that Republicans did dam well considering the mood of the country


53 posted on 11/18/2006 10:15:59 PM PST by woofie (creativity is destructive)
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To: Liz

BTTT


54 posted on 11/18/2006 10:22:45 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: Antoninus
Here's the problem for the Rove/Rice/Giuliani wing of the GOP: You can't expect religious people to vote for you if you laugh at them, lie to them, and screw them over time and again. We're not the rubes you think we are.

Nice take. The elitist contempt shown to the all-important churchgoing voting bloc has not gone unnoticed.

Now here's an actual quote posted on FR (complete with misspellings) regarding Giuliani: " If the international or financial scene gets truly dangerous that would motivate voters to go with a proven leader like Rudy instead of an untested politically correct social conservative. The last thing the conservative movement needs in this perilous age is to be hijacked by cultural fanatics who coulden't (sic) find Irag (sic) on a map or read a balance sheet if it was stapled to their foreheads because there (sic) worried about a queer under their bed."

Makes you wonder what kind of fiscal or international debacle will be precipitated to make Rudy look like the savior of humanity.

Some of the Rudy ding-a-lings have also posted that social conservatives are expected to pack up and leave the party should this poseur win the WH (gag).

Irving Kristol (father of Fox pundit Billy) also weighed in with his putdown of social conservatives: "The historical task and political purpose of neoconservatism would seem to be.....to convert the Republican Party and American conservatism in general, against their respective wills, into a new kind of conservative politics suitable to governing a modern democracy."

(I pray this guy will get professional help for his dictator fixation.)

55 posted on 11/18/2006 10:39:06 PM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: ClaireSolt

Rudy's multiple Nov 7 campaign flops, were preceded by his failed foray into Georgia---designed to show citified Rudy could appeal to Southern conservatives. Rudy was pictured glad-handing Georgians, in support of Ralph Reed's gubernatorial bid. Georgians weren't buying it---Reed went down to defeat.

Rudy's views on core cultural issues are ultra-liberal to the point of being radical. Giuliani is not just pro-abortion, he is pro-partial-birth abortion. He has not flinched from defending the legality of the gruesome practice that the late Democratic Sen. Patrick Moynihan of New York described “as close to infanticide.”

“I am pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights,” Giuliani said in 1999, when he was contemplating a Senate campaign. When a reporter asked if he at least favored a ban on partial-birth abortion, Giuliani said, “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing.” Rudy even said he would give his own daughter the money for an abortion.


Giuliani’s gay worship is so extreme, he advocated stripping away the special legal status of traditional marriage----even though he had no legal or official mandate to do so. In 1998, Rudy pushed a municipal ordinance that wiped out all distinctions between married and unmarried couples in New York City law, regardless of their gender.


56 posted on 11/18/2006 10:55:34 PM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: Liz
Been reading HR`s Terry Jeffrey I see. Good stuff.

He nailed Giuliani in that column for the radical leftwinger he is. Just look at the current FR poll question, and its obvious there are many liberal and libertarian type Republicans dwelling on FR these days.

57 posted on 11/18/2006 11:33:17 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Reagan Man
HR`s Terry Jeffrey nailed Giuliani for the radical leftwinger he is. .......in the piece entitled, "Forget It, Rudy."

Another riff on Rudy's liberal proclivities (and why he will not get conservative votes): then-Mayor Rudy gave homosexuals high-paid city jobs including the son of Liberal Party honcho Ray Harding (who endorsed Rudy and gave Rudy the Liberal Party ballot line).

Russel Harding stole the city blind, giving himself unauthorized salary raises, stealing electronic equipment, enjoying gay porn, internet child porn, and traveling with gay friends on the taxpayers' dime.

When appraised of the ripoff, and that Russel was being prosecuted, Rudy said he "felt bad" for the Harding family.

Rudy never deviated from the liberal drill and dared not uter a discouraging word about the depraved Russel, lest Rudy alienate big buck homosexual and liberal donors and voters.

58 posted on 11/19/2006 12:07:48 AM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: Txsleuth
Thank you for your kind comment.

Will do all I can to help get the Republican Majority back. I made some rather disparaging comments in here right after the election because I was angered by the loss and at a lot of voters that didn't turn out to vote. I see things differently now that there has been time to reflect. My apologies to any that I might have offended.

59 posted on 11/19/2006 12:11:03 AM PST by jerry639
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To: Liz

Lord God, I pray, rise up a righteous leader in this party to run for the office of POTUS. We do not see one, but you know who they are. Place it on their heart to come forward and lead this nation back to her glorious roots. In the name of your son, amen!


60 posted on 11/19/2006 1:05:26 AM PST by Anti-Hillary (Barbour/Steele '08)
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