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Time To Talk Mormon, Mitt
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Posted on 11/29/2006 11:28:09 AM PST by Omega Man II

Time To Talk Mormon, Mitt

Romney needs to get past the faith issue, fast.

By John Dickerson

Posted Tuesday, Nov. 28, 2006, at 7:11 PM ET

Mitt Romney. Click image to expand.Mitt Romney Mitt Romney has said that if his Mormon faith becomes an issue in his race for the presidency, he will address it at length in a speech. Does he have space on his calendar tomorrow?

The press is writing about his religion. Pollsters are asking about it, and GOP voters inevitably bring it up in any discussion of the 2008 candidates. Will his faith affect how he governs? Will it hurt his chances at winning the nomination? A debate in the blogosphere rages over Andrew Sullivan's posting of a picture of the undergarment worn by some Mormons, an act that some of the faithful have found offensive.

When they're talking about your bloomers, it's time to clear a few things up. It's not that Romney should come clean about his clean laundry—he should please stay quiet about that—but now is the time to improve on his current approach, which has largely been to make fun of misconceptions about Mormonism. ("Take my wives, please" kinds of jokes.) If he doesn't define what his religion means to him, others will do it for him—focusing on the most loopy aspects. Constant questions and endless press coverage will get in the way of his larger task of pitching himself as the only "true conservative" in the GOP race.

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To: DManA
I think the press coverage of their religion would drive them right up the wall.

Yes and No.

"There's no such thing as bad publicity."

For example, the way the Press openly lies when it talks about consevatives angers me. When the press gets my religion wrong I get bothered too. But then I think of it in the bigger picture. When the Mainstream media states falsely, "Mormons believe XYZ", I can then take the opportunity to clarify, expound and blather on about what I really believe.

The rumor mill was ripe when Jesus walked the earth. A lot of lies were said about him and he was eventually killed on the cross for some of the lies. But just about anyone who was anyone had heard about "this Jesus" fellow. Most people have heard about Mormons today because of many of the media lies told about it over the years.

41 posted on 11/29/2006 3:31:41 PM PST by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: AnalogReigns

Actually in my belief system, The True church has been on the earth since the time of Adam predating Judaism. The Church of Jesus Christ has been present throughout history. IOW Adam was Christian, Moses, of the mosiac law, that Jews follow was Christian. Judaism really is Christianity, they just don't realize it. Some famous bible theologian (sorry I can't remember the reference) cites thousands of references and hidden meanings about Christ on the OT. The Bible says that when the Messiah returns the Jews will finally recognize him.

Do you claim Christianity is only 2000 years old or eternal, ie from before the earth was created?


42 posted on 11/29/2006 3:39:08 PM PST by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: Eastbound
Didn't a mussie just get elected to congress? No one seems concerned about that. Who would you trust more?

A Mormon any day of course. The fact that a Muslim got elected in this country after 911 with very little debate is astounding to me.!

43 posted on 11/29/2006 3:52:56 PM PST by ladyinred (RIP my precious Lamb Chop)
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To: Reaganesque

Any specifics?


44 posted on 11/29/2006 3:56:36 PM PST by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Here ye Christians! Bring out your litmus tests for Mormons!

It will come back to haunt you. The secular progressives view any religion as cooky and cultish. Watch your future Christian candidate sunk because of his 'odd' faith, 'outdated' views on a 6,000 yr old earth, the second coming, homosexuality, tithing, and angels.


45 posted on 11/29/2006 4:05:16 PM PST by Swordfished
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To: Plutarch

I'm going off on a tangent here, but given the Mormon bashing going on....

Interestingly, if you look at the class composition of the nation's top law schools, you'll see that BYU outperforms a lot of Ivies in terms of the most represented undergraduate schools at a particular law school.

When I was at UVA Law, there were more BYU graduates than Columbia, Dartmouth, or Cornell graduates, for instance. They outnumbered all but UVA, Harvard, Duke, and Yale at the school.

And now that I switch directions, there are 4 BYU grads in my state medical school class--in a state not exactly known for its Mormon population.

I have absolutely nothing against Mormons. They're hardworking and family-oriented, and from my experience, some of the most sincere, kindest people I've met--almost universally.

It bothers me to see so many trashing them here on this site. Sure my beliefs are different than theirs, but I'd say their values are pretty much the same. And should be the same as most conservative posters on this site.


46 posted on 11/29/2006 4:32:22 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: ConservativeDude
Of course I think we all know the answer to that hypothetical).p Well, at least half of us do anyway.


47 posted on 11/29/2006 6:20:15 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound
Correction:

" (Of course I think we all know the answer to that hypothetical)."

Well, at least half of us do, anyway.

48 posted on 11/29/2006 6:21:29 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"There are different standards for Democrats and Republicans."

Close, Dilbert. I'm convinced the dems, et al have no standards at all.

49 posted on 11/29/2006 6:24:28 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: Rameumptom
" . . . he was eventually killed on the cross for some of the lies."

Interesting. I thought he was crucified as a result of blasphemy, which required the death penalty. The charge of blasphemy was true.

50 posted on 11/29/2006 6:40:00 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
It ain't about his religion. It's about his politics.

Perfect. Thank you.

51 posted on 11/29/2006 6:41:12 PM PST by ShadowDancer (No autopsy, no foul.)
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To: ladyinred
" . . . astounding to me.!

and mind-boggling to me. Does not compute....does not compute....

52 posted on 11/29/2006 6:46:25 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: fish hawk

That's right. I don't think a person's religion should be considered AT ALL. It is a non-issue.


53 posted on 11/30/2006 8:16:50 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: Omega Man II

I don't have much respect for the political opinions of a person that believes that God used to be a man and that man will become a God.


54 posted on 11/30/2006 8:18:50 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Rudy 08...If ya can't beat em, join em.)
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To: Trust but Verify

That's America. I myself, will not vote for any Muslim running for office. Stick to your values and who knows who will be running this county in 20 years from now.


55 posted on 11/30/2006 8:21:49 AM PST by fish hawk
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To: fish hawk

A radical muslim running for office will have more in his way than his religion.


56 posted on 11/30/2006 9:17:49 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: Eastbound
The blasphemy they accused him of was saying he was God. The translation in the NT of "I Am" was from the original Yahweh (Jehovah) found over 6000 timed in the Bible. The Law (judaic not biblical) was that you couldn;t say Yahweh out loud. They wanted to kill him for Saying out loud he was God. It wasn't blasphemy because he was speaking the truth. They even expected a Messiah (God) but insisted it couldn't be Jesus.

For example John 8:58-59 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

Wiki Yahweh

57 posted on 11/30/2006 12:15:40 PM PST by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: DungeonMaster

I was always taught that the DM was God ;-)


58 posted on 11/30/2006 12:18:51 PM PST by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: Rameumptom
I was always taught that the DM was God ;-)

LOL!!!

A NATURAL TWENTY!!!

59 posted on 11/30/2006 12:21:04 PM PST by DungeonMaster (Rudy 08...If ya can't beat em, join em.)
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To: Rameumptom
"They wanted to kill him for Saying out loud he was God. It wasn't blasphemy because he was speaking the truth. They even expected a Messiah (God) but insisted it couldn't be Jesus."

Exactly right. But even if they did know Jesus was telling the truth, they were still bound to obey the letter of the law. And that was the law that Jesus came to fulfill. He offered his own body as the perfect sacrifice, ending the practice of offering less than perfect sacrifices, which would be pointless thereafter.

In the new dispensation, the laws are written on the fleshly tables of the heart.

60 posted on 11/30/2006 5:06:28 PM PST by Eastbound
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