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Pope leaves Turkey after momentous visit ( wins praise in Turkey for gestures in mosque)
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| December 1, 2006
| Gina Doggett
Posted on 12/01/2006 6:24:40 AM PST by NYer
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Pope Benedict XVI releases a dove before celebrating a mass at the Holy Spirit Cathedral in Istanbul, December 1, 2006. (Patrick Hertzog/Pool/Reuters)
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12/01/2006 6:24:42 AM PST
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NYer
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Pope Benedict XVI celebrates a Mass inside the Holy Spirit Catholic Cathedral after freeing four doves, symbol of peace, in Istanbul, Turkey, Friday, Dec. 1, 2006. The pope celebrated Mass for members of Turkey's tiny Roman Catholic community a day after a stunning moment of prayer at a mosque repeated his call to end divisions among the world's Christians. (AP Photo/Patrick Hertzog, Pool)
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12/01/2006 6:26:22 AM PST
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NYer
(Apart from the cross, there is no other ladder by which we may get to Heaven. St. Rose of Lima)
To: NYer
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12/01/2006 6:28:07 AM PST
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Vigilanteman
(Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Vigilanteman
Was that appropriate position bottoms up?
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12/01/2006 6:31:33 AM PST
by
x_plus_one
(Franklin Graham: "Allah is not the God of Moses. Allah had no son")
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To: NYer
That is a beautiful pic - a definite sign of HOPE!
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12/01/2006 6:36:37 AM PST
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Gerish
(Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
To: NYer
Papal Pause Not Exactly a Prayer ISTANBUL, Turkey, NOV. 30, 2006 (Zenit.org).- Benedict XVI's silent pause during his visit to the Blue Mosque was not prayer in the proper sense of the term, clarified the Vatican spokesman.
Jesuit Father Federico Lombardi, director of the Vatican press office, confirmed, after the Holy Father's historic visit today, that "the Pope paused in a moment of meditation and recollection."
"It was a moment of personal meditation, of relationship with God, which can also be called of personal, profound prayer," Father Lombardi told journalists, "but it was not a prayer with external manifestations characteristic of the Christian faith."
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12/01/2006 6:38:09 AM PST
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Carolina
To: NYer
He survived the trip?
Surely this man is blessed.
There must've been hundreds gunning for him.
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12/01/2006 6:39:40 AM PST
by
Uncle Miltie
(Crusades were indigenous peoples' counter-attacks against imperialist foreign Muslim invaders)
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Adding drama to diplomacy, the 79-year-old Pope made a stunning conciliatory gesture Thursday when he assumed an attitude of Muslim prayer while facing Mecca in Istanbul's Blue Mosque. Must have not been any Korans nearby.
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12/01/2006 6:39:45 AM PST
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Gamecock
(Pelagianism is the natural heresy of zealous Christians who are not interested in theology. J.I.P.)
To: NYer
I would have only one gesture if I were in a mosque.
To: Carolina
"...the 79-year-old Pope....assumed an attitude of Muslim prayer while facing Mecca in Istanbul's Blue Mosque."
It is still paying deference to a false god, and that's just plain creepy.
And God spoke all these words, saying:
"I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.
"You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them.
Exodus 20:1-5
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12/01/2006 6:57:29 AM PST
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Psalm 73
("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
To: Psalm 73
We Christians celebrate our liturgy facing East in anticipation of the Lord's return. This is our ancient posture. Facing East is not an exclusive property of Islam.
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12/01/2006 7:11:08 AM PST
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Carolina
To: Gamecock
I fail to see why the direction he prays in matters. Mecca would be situated South of Turkey, as would Jerusalem. Who really cares if he made a nice gesture, we all know he was praying for their conversion, and this is a win-win situation, but I guess that doesn't matter to a Calvinist, God has already micromanaged everything for them. It's too bad their way of thought is so insignificant, and that none of their leaders are important enough to make national headlines, let alone international headlines.
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12/01/2006 7:18:54 AM PST
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Theoden
("Christianus ille Victor")
To: Carolina
It is the context that he did it in.
Islam is a false religion hatched by Satan - a Christian leader, esp. one of such prominenece, should never demonstrate a reverence for it.
Sure, we are to love Muslims, and to show them the way to true salvation (Jesus, and only Jesus)- but we should never pretend that their god is legitimate in any way.
This just sends the wrong message - Pope Benedict is wise enough to know better.
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12/01/2006 7:19:39 AM PST
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Psalm 73
("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
To: NYer
I'm sure most of us Freepers would love to go into a mosque and give the muslims a "gesture".
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12/01/2006 7:21:30 AM PST
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Tokra
(I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
To: Theoden
"It's too bad their way of thought is so insignificant, and that none of their leaders are important enough to make national headlines...."
Do you realize what you just said?
You know, Theoden, a little humility goes a long way - no need to attack "Gamecock" like that.
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12/01/2006 7:24:01 AM PST
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Psalm 73
("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
To: Psalm 73
He was demonstrating courtesy to his hosts, and I fail to see that praying to the True God in any situation could be a sin. He was not praying to Mecca, to Allah, or to any of the other Islamic weirdnesses...
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12/01/2006 7:25:00 AM PST
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livius
To: Psalm 73; Carolina
a Christian leader, esp. one of such prominenece, should never demonstrate a reverence for it. The Holy Father was not showing reverence for Islam. He was praying to the One, Holy and Almighty God. And you can be sure he was praying for peace and freedom of religion.
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12/01/2006 7:28:54 AM PST
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NYer
(Apart from the cross, there is no other ladder by which we may get to Heaven. St. Rose of Lima)
To: Psalm 73
Christians were praying eastwards long before the Muslims started. Look at the picture, if that is an attitude of Muslim prayer, then most people I know pray in a attitude of Muslims prayer. This is a nonstory that the media is trying to make something out of inorder to scandalize Christians. Don't fall for it.
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12/01/2006 7:35:30 AM PST
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mockingbyrd
(Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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