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(GOP SCRAPING)THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL (DICK MORRIS ALERT)
VOTE.COM ^ | November 30, 2006 | DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

Posted on 12/01/2006 12:05:51 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

With the recent defeat of Sen. George Allen (R-VA) and the surprising withdrawal of Sen. Bill Frist (R-TN) from the presidential race, the right wing of the Republican Party is running out of candidates for president in 2008.

For the centrists within the party, the likely candidacy of Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) and the possible option of former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani offer attractive possibilities, but whom do the conservatives have to put up against them? Surely the GOP is not about to embrace the pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro-gun control, pro-affirmative action, pro-immigration Giuliani. (He's fine with us, but not with the party base.) Nor are they likely to find favor with John McCain, co-sponsor -- with Ted Kennedy -- of the immigration amnesty bill, supporter of the rights of detainees to avoid "torture," sponsor -- with Joe Lieberman -- of the anti-global warming initiative, and the original framer of campaign finance reform. Conservatives are also likely to hold his membership in the so-called "gang of fourteen" against him. Back in 2005, he joined six other Republicans and seven Democrats in backing confirmation of moderate judges without a filibuster. Trusting such a person with control over judicial appointments may be a nonstarter on the right. (Again, we're OK with all this, but you don't win in South Carolina with these positions.)

So whom does the right have to put up?

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: Arkansas; US: Massachusetts; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: election2008; gop; rinos; whitehouse
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To: JZelle
You forgot your < /sarc > tag.

Waterhead is one of the most repulsive Leftists on the boob tube today.

61 posted on 12/01/2006 12:48:55 PM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: Ieatfrijoles

Bill was viewed as a candidate for POTUS long before 1992, because he was a politics prodigy. It was even an election issue the last year he ran for Governor of AR. He was also fortunate to run in a year when other Democrats were scared to run against GHWB.


62 posted on 12/01/2006 12:49:33 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
[ With the recent defeat of Sen. George Allen (R-VA) and the surprising withdrawal of Sen. Bill Frist (R-TN) from the presidential race, the right wing of the Republican Party is running out of candidates for president in 2008. ]

What right wing?.. Theres a right wing?... Republican or otherwise?..
I've looked.. There is zero right wing ANYWHERE...

How can that be?.. Was the right murdered in 1992/4?.. (all ten of them)
Where is it?..

63 posted on 12/01/2006 12:52:45 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: Cicero
We need a candidate who is a strong conservative, both social and fiscal. We also need a candidate with a strong appeal who can get elected. He needs to appeal to the voters over the heads of the media, who will do everything to destroy him.

Duncan Hunter is your guy.

64 posted on 12/01/2006 12:54:29 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Buck W.

That's been my favorite ticket as well -- only the other way around.


65 posted on 12/01/2006 12:55:39 PM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Tancredo would have a tough time carrying Colorado.


66 posted on 12/01/2006 12:55:51 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Looking back now, I can see that Bill had the WH in his sights all along. But as a reasonably informed San Franciscan I knew nothing about him. Heck I was even reading the Chronicle in those days and you can't be any more informed than that.


67 posted on 12/01/2006 12:55:57 PM PST by Ieatfrijoles
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sam for President.


68 posted on 12/01/2006 12:56:30 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: mosquitobite

How about McCain/Rice.


69 posted on 12/01/2006 1:00:37 PM PST by Courdeleon02
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It looks tom e like no one is looking at the obvious alternatives. Pawlenty and Tommy Thompson. we really need to go to the swing belt of Pennsylvania and great lakes states to find the candidates and these are the only two and I think they would be good. If Rudy could just reverse his open door immigration policies. Rudy on some of the social issues has been what some people would call a Rino but outside of that he has been a good effective conservative. I guess he had to take some liberal stands to accomplish what he had to do at NYC. But, now he has to back away from a few of them at least.
70 posted on 12/01/2006 1:01:22 PM PST by bilhosty (to hell with ABCNNBCBS)
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To: StAnDeliver

Sorry, I thought the ;) would cover it.


71 posted on 12/01/2006 1:01:44 PM PST by JZelle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I'd love to see Gingrich in the race. Unfortunatly he's offended the rigid right by not echoing the correct doctrine 100% of the time. He is definitely a free thinker, and a conservative one, but not perfect enough for some here.


72 posted on 12/01/2006 1:01:47 PM PST by narby
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To: WhiteGuy
Having just squandered 6 years of nearly unchallenged control with little to show for it beyond a trail of corruption, indictments, massive wasteful spending and the largest increase in entitlements since the johnson administration, today's gop leaders are ready to rally around another "lesser of 2 evils" candidate on which to pin their hopes for retention of the WH.

Which is why we are in trouble.

73 posted on 12/01/2006 1:04:27 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: bilhosty
It looks tom e like no one is looking at the obvious alternatives. Pawlenty and Tommy Thompson. we really need to go to the swing belt of Pennsylvania and great lakes states to find the candidates and these are the only two and I think they would be good.

I really like Pawlenty as a strategic VP pick. Winning Minnesota would allow the GOP to lose both Ohio and New Mexico, and still win the election.

74 posted on 12/01/2006 1:09:14 PM PST by BlackRazor
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To: Ogie Oglethorpe

I like what I hear about Brownback, but I'm not sure what you mean by leader of the party. In the House and Senate, they have their own involuted rules of seniority and popularity. As candidate for president, I don't know.

Once you have a sitting president, he usually becomes the leader of the party, unless he is incompetent or you have some really powerful operator like Mike Mansfield. So that brings us back to questions of who can realistically get elected.


75 posted on 12/01/2006 1:10:50 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: org.whodat

He'd have my wife's vote...

...irregardless of where he stands on the issues.


76 posted on 12/01/2006 1:10:55 PM PST by proudpapa (of three.)
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To: MikeA
We have to consider marketability and the ability to stand up against the Clinton/Obama P.R. juggernaut.

You have that right. If nothing else, Clinton is experienced with the national spotlight and Obama has an undeniable presence and charisma. Then of course there is Edwards inching towards a decision and he too will be better able to harness his much talked about charisma this go around.

77 posted on 12/01/2006 1:12:42 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: Buck W.
Giuliani/Franks is an interesting ticket.

Tommy or Barney?

78 posted on 12/01/2006 1:14:27 PM PST by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: redgolum
Tancredo and Hunter are "Angry Men", and though angry men appeal to FR conservatives, they don't win elections. The Southerners can't win in 2008 for reasons previously discussed. It has be someone with few direct ties to the Bush Administration.

It's McCain, Romney, or Giuliani. Any combination of the three can beat Clinton/Obama. A Romney/Giuliani or McCain/Giuliani ticket with the promise that as VP, Giuliani will directly oversee Homeland Security would be the best option.

Regardless, social conservatism and NeoCon adventurism have been stopped in their tracks by the 2006 election results. It' s either back to a Goldwater-like focus on libertarian civil rights themes, fiscal conservatism, and national defense, or four more decades in the wilderness.

79 posted on 12/01/2006 1:14:28 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Cicero
can't remember the last time I agreed with Dick Morris

That must mean you moved... since he usually comes out with every side of every issue during a six month cycle. If you stay put with your opinion, he'll hit it eventually. :)

80 posted on 12/01/2006 1:17:07 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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