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Terri's Story
Terri Schindler Schiavo Foundation ^ | December 3,2006 | Schindler Foundation

Posted on 12/03/2006 3:03:26 AM PST by 8mmMauser

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To: All; wagglebee
Ping to a wagglebee thread on Obama, one by Jill Stanek of WND...

"I think he was internally struggling with it," said O'Malley. "His dilemma was obvious. On one hand he holds himself out to be a constitutional scholar, and, of course, our Constitution makes clear that persons born are entitled to all the rights and privileges of full citizens. He consistently characterized the issue before us as being about abortion, but the legislation had nothing to do with Roe v. Wade. It focused on persons born alive. It was so easy to be on the right side of the angels here, but he wasn't."

Jill Stanek: When Obama chose his church over his state

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1,561 posted on 01/18/2007 3:10:50 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Is there any good news here? After all a socialized medicine program may find a way to shorten the wait for some. Ping to wagglebee thread on it.

London, England (LifeNews.com) -- Unlike in the United States, abortions are on the rise in England, but apparently that's not good enough for the BBC. The prestigious British news service is actively looking for women who have had to wait to have an abortion because of the typical delays that accompany the nation's health service.

In a post on its web site, the BBC asks women, "Have you tried to get an appointment for a pregnancy termination and been told you will have to wait for weeks?"

BBC Looking for Women Who Waited for Abortions for Biased Story

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1,562 posted on 01/18/2007 3:16:06 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Ping to a wagglebee thread. Judge Roy Moore and the death penalty...

Many people, apparently upset that Saddam Hussein was mocked and ridiculed prior to being hung, did not dwell on the fact that thousands of innocent people were maimed, tortured and murdered without evidence of any crime, the benefit of a trial or any appeal to a higher authority of law. Opponents of the death penalty or capital punishment are not really distraught at how Saddam was executed; they don't think that his life should have been taken at all.

Judge Roy Moore: Death penalty opponents wrong again

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1,563 posted on 01/18/2007 3:20:51 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

Darn, I'd like to go.


1,564 posted on 01/18/2007 5:03:31 AM PST by T'wit (Liberalism is in every particular the attitude and tactics of insufferable little girls)
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To: 8mmMauser

As a former intelligence specialist, I have nothing but contempt for Sandy Berger. As a human, though, I can appreciate his motives -- it was this or Ft. Marcy Park.


1,565 posted on 01/18/2007 5:21:23 AM PST by T'wit (Liberalism is in every particular the attitude and tactics of insufferable little girls)
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To: T'wit

It's scary what the Clintonistas are willing to do just to keep in their good graces. That is why I believe that Dick Morris may still be doing their bidding, he is the ONLY senior person to ever walk away from them who hasn't been destroyed or worse.


1,566 posted on 01/18/2007 5:30:44 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: T'wit

Me, too. Wish I could pull it off, but circumstances are gumming us up.


1,567 posted on 01/18/2007 5:39:23 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: wagglebee; T'wit

That is an anomoly, isn't it. He hasn't suffered from Sudden Instant Death syndrome like the others who offended the king and queen. Makes me mutter hmmmmmm.


1,568 posted on 01/18/2007 5:41:59 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: T'wit

The park was on my commute route home for years and I would stop there a lot, long before its infamy. It was a, ummmm, good choice for such a task. Amazing how something so close to heavy traffic could be so private...


1,569 posted on 01/18/2007 5:50:23 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

Yes, I've been there too, just to see for myself. Even brought home a souvenir pebble :-) How VF's suicide trainers found the place themselves is beyond me. How various committees reached the verdict of suicide is no mystery at all.


1,570 posted on 01/18/2007 6:26:01 AM PST by T'wit (Liberalism is in every particular the attitude and tactics of insufferable little girls)
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To: T'wit

Maybe they found it because it was a handy rendezvous for lunch time lovers. I have noticed in the parking area some likely candidates such definition. I bet it was a busy place in the Clinton years.


1,571 posted on 01/18/2007 7:08:01 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: BykrBayb
>>"Hi Nancy! We're one step closer to torturing you to death. Aren't you thrilled?"

"Yes mommy. Is Frontline here filming this private family matter for everyone to watch on TV next week?"

1,572 posted on 01/18/2007 3:15:29 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: T'wit
Whaddya bet that serpent Cranford helped his friends, the Cruzans, reach and stick to their decision to kill their own daughter?

And maybe, "joe, you are never going to get better. I think it would be best if you committed a rational suicide".

1,573 posted on 01/18/2007 3:21:22 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: T'wit

Perplexing statements for sure.


1,574 posted on 01/18/2007 3:28:58 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779
>> Perplexing statements for sure.

I keep remembering this:

"[Nancy] turned and looked at me and stared at me with a panicky look, sweating profusely, and the thought I had was, she was thinking, ‘Oh, here’s a policeman, he’ll help me.’ But we weren’t allowed to do that,” said Seneker.

1,575 posted on 01/18/2007 7:10:34 PM PST by T'wit (Liberalism is in every particular the attitude and tactics of insufferable little girls)
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To: bjs1779
>> "joe, you are never going to get better. I think it would be best if you committed a rational suicide"

"Here's a prescription, Joe. Take the whole bottle."

1,576 posted on 01/18/2007 7:14:03 PM PST by T'wit (Liberalism is in every particular the attitude and tactics of insufferable little girls)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> Maybe they found it because it was a handy rendezvous for lunch time lovers.

IIRC, the first guy to find the body had stopped to use the outdoor men's room. Maybe he wandered back a ways because too many people were having fun in the parking lot. That was actually a huge flaw in the plan -- the body was discovered much too quickly. It would have been far harder to track the forensic details a few days later.

There was a road winding down to the river along the back boundary of the park. One could easily have hopped the fence there to enter the park.

1,577 posted on 01/18/2007 7:33:50 PM PST by T'wit (Liberalism is in every particular the attitude and tactics of insufferable little girls)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> Please do not resuscitate me

>> I, Joseph Hughes, being of sound mind a body, do hereby ask you, my readers – the very select two or three of you whom this concerns directly – to not seek resuscitation should I enter a persistent vegetative state. I do not want to "exist" ad infinitum, my vital life functions performed by complex machinery.

Got news for you, Joe. Terri Schiavo was not attached to any complex machinery. Karen Ann Quinlan was not attached to any complex machinery for the last nine years of her life. Nancy Beth Cruzan was not attached to any complex machinery.

Got more news for you, Joe. You don't have to ask not to be resuscitated. Nobody cares.

1,578 posted on 01/18/2007 8:26:46 PM PST by T'wit (Liberalism is in every particular the attitude and tactics of insufferable little girls)
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To: bjs1779
>> Ronald Cranford... regular expert witness in favor of removing food and fluids

So regular and predictable that Felos imported him all the way from Minnesota to vote to kill Terri. Cranford wasn't called as an expert, he was called as "Dr. Humane Death" -- a guaranteed vote for death. Such was "due process" by the Greer Court -- those who wanted to kill Terri got three votes, those who wanted to keep her alive got two. Voila! She dies! The media then duly reported that "the court determined that Terri Schiavo was in a persistent vegetative state."

The court rigged the vote, is all. It ignored some 33 other affidavits and petitions from neurologists and professionals who questioned the PVS diagnosis.

1,579 posted on 01/18/2007 8:43:02 PM PST by T'wit (Liberalism is in every particular the attitude and tactics of insufferable little girls)
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To: T'wit
The court rigged the vote, is all. It ignored some 33 other affidavits and petitions from neurologists and professionals who questioned the PVS diagnosis.

It also ignored the testimony of the doctors who advocated killing her. Even they testified to her condition being inconsistent with Florida's legal definition of PVS, as well as the medical community's definition. They all testified that she was responsive and aware.

1,580 posted on 01/19/2007 12:28:59 AM PST by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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