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Foreclosure threat reaches the burbs
TwinCities,com ^ | 12/3/06 | JENNIFER BJORHUS

Posted on 12/04/2006 1:47:48 PM PST by RobRoy

The problem isn't confined to urban areas — families in well-off communities are finding that a risky mortgage and some bad luck can put a home at risk.

Pam and Nathan Weisel live in "The Preserve," a freshly painted subdivision carved from the farmland in Norwood Young America, Minn.

For now.

Three months late on their mortgage, with a foreclosure notice in hand, the Weisels and their six children don't know how much longer they can call The Preserve home. The couple was hard-pressed to pay their $1,841 monthly mortgage after Nathan lost his sales job and health problems kept Pam, an office manager, out of work. They fell behind even before the interest-only period on their adjustable-rate mortgage expired and their payments jumped — a payment shock expected to hit millions of families next year.

While Twin Cities foreclosures have been most concentrated in lower-income urban neighborhoods such as North Minneapolis and St. Paul's East Side, they're rapidly becoming a suburban problem as aftershocks from the nation's housing boom roll across the economy. Even sparsely populated, relatively well-off Carver County is not immune, as homeowners struggle with a toxic stew of factors including stagnating home values and mortgages laden with risk.

At least 88 homes in Carver County had been auctioned off in sheriff's sales by the end of October, up from 81 for all of 2005. The big stone sign in exurban Norwood Young America announcing The Preserve may connote sanctuary, but the burbs are as shaky ground as any for homeowners these days. The Weisels are a textbook case of real life colliding with unreal mortgage.

"I've watched everything he and I have worked so hard together to accomplish … I've watched everything go down, down, down right before my eyes. It breaks my heart," said Pam Weisel, 36.

The surge of foreclosures is still so new that experts have not formed an opinion about the suburban trend, other than that foreclosures are now cutting across income groups. Allen Fishbein, director of housing policy for the Consumer Federation of America, said that the higher home prices in suburban and exurban areas could play a part.

"People on the whole were probably stretched further and on thinner ice to buy these suburban homes than you would see in the inner cities," Fishbein said.

The trouble started pretty much as soon as the Weisels bought their house last year. Married four years ago, they had been renting but needed more room for their big blended family, and they yearned for something to show for their hard work. With four bedrooms and a spacious back yard, 569 Preserve Blvd. fit the bill. Pam, a native of Houston, jokes about being the hillbillies of The Preserve, with all their children rambling about, plus two dogs and a cat.

Divorces left them both with blotchy credit. But Nate had a solid sales job with a well company that paid as much as $55,000 a year. Child-support payments and state assistance for raising Nate's half-brother, as well as one of Pam's ex-husband's children, gave them a temporary income boost.

A nontraditional mortgage — a key culprit in the nation's surging foreclosures — took them the rest of the way.

To get the Weisels into a $278,000 house, their mortgage broker steered them to a zero-down-payment, interest-only adjustable-rate home loan — a type of loan heavily marketed during the housing boom as a way to make expensive homes affordable. The Weisels avoided the extra cost of private mortgage insurance by getting a so-called 80/20 loan — two different loans that equal 100 percent financing.

Pam acknowledged she didn't carefully read all the documents and hadn't fully realized that for the first two years, they would pay just the interest on the loan, and that the interest rate would reset this coming spring. They placed far too much trust in the broker, she said.

"As an accountant, I feel kind of stupid at this point," Pam said. "If you kind of place all your trust in somebody, and you think they're doing everything they can to help you and are looking out for your best interest, you're not sitting there picking it apart." Disaster struck almost immediately.

Within months, Nate lost his job and Pam learned she had a large tumor lodged between her heart and her lungs on her thymus gland. The tumor had grown to the size of a softball by the time surgeons opened her chest last year to remove it. Against all expectations, it turned out to be benign.

"The doctor said, 'I don't know who you prayed to, but he really likes you,' " Pam said.

The financial gods were not so generous.

Insurance covered the medical bills, but Pam only recently has been able to look for work again. Nate landed a job in car sales at Jeff Belzer's dealership in Lakeville a few weeks ago, but the commission-only position isn't bringing in much yet. Some house payments went on their few credit cards. They borrowed money from family, and their church, Living Rock Church, has paid big bills and bought groceries. A few weeks ago, the Weisels held a garage sale to try to raise money, but some of the big-ticket items — a 55" Sony high-definition TV, living room furniture and even Pam's wedding ring — didn't sell.

Some help even backfired. Nate's mother took out a home-equity loan to buy the family a reliable used Suburban, but the vehicle put them above the asset threshold, disqualifying them from food stamps in Carver County, Pam said.

For the first time in her life, Pam tapped food shelves. "I've always been able to stand on my own and never really needed help from anybody," Pam said. "I had to go ask for one of the most basic needs."

There have been times, Pam said, she's fed the family with the only thing she had left in the house: a bag of rice.

"The hard part is trying to look strong for everybody else," said Nate.

And so the Weisels are preparing to move back to Houston, where housing is cheaper and Pam's family can help. But just in case there's a shot at righting things, she's filling out paperwork detailing their assets and their liabilities for Louise Setterquist, a foreclosure-prevention specialist in Carver County. The Weisels' mortgage is like many she's seen, said Setterquist, a no-nonsense counselor with Carver County's Community Development Agency. Most of Setterquist's clients have mortgages of $200,000 to $300,000. Most are adjustable-rate mortgages, and most are subprime, the higher-interest loans made to people with blemished credit.

Setterquist wants to see the Weisels' big financial picture before she advises them.

"I want pay stubs and a budget to see if there's even a discussion (about avoiding foreclosure) here, or I'm going to tell you to sell," Setterquist said. Packing for Houston is a scary thought for the children. Leeann, Pam's 14-year-old daughter, said leaving her friends behind will be the hardest. As for Pam, worn out from the struggle, she's ready to live on a farm "in the middle of nowhere."

Jennifer Bjorhus can be reached at jbjorhus@pioneerpress.com or 651-228-2146. IS YOUR HOME AT RISK?

If you are facing problems making your house payments and need advice, contact the Homeownership Center of Minnesota at 651-659-9336 or go to www.hocmn.org and click on "foreclosure prevention." Or call the Homeownership Preservation Foundation's toll-free confidential hot line at 1-888-995-HOPE to speak with a counselor. Or go to www.Hud.gov, click on "talk to a housing counselor" and click on Minnesota. Weisel family members include, from left, Stephanie, 11; Pam, the mother; Leeann, 14; Jessie, 11; and Nathan, the father. "I've watched everything (Nathan) and I have worked so hard together to accomplish … I've watched everything go down, down, down right before my eyes. It breaks my heart," said Pam Weisel, 36. HOME AT RISK? If you are facing problems making house payments, contact the Homeownership Center of Minnesota at 651-659-9336 or go to www.hocmn.org. Or call the Homeownership Preservation Foundation at 1-888-995-HOPE. Or go to www.hud.gov.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: creditbubble; foreclosures; housingbubble; realestate
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To: Howlin
But they had that 55 inch TV, huh?

That's their retirement plan.

41 posted on 12/04/2006 2:35:40 PM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: LC HOGHEAD
why didnt they buy a cheaper house???

They wanted to live beyond their means.

42 posted on 12/04/2006 2:36:44 PM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: RobRoy

I spent many years as a mortgage loan officer. People just don't want to accept that they can't afford a particular house. There is always a loan officer out there that will put them in a dangerous loan in order to get them to closing. Just because you are approved for the loan doesn't mean it's a good idea to buy that house.


43 posted on 12/04/2006 2:48:39 PM PST by Terpin (Missing: One very clever and insightful tagline. Reward for safe return!)
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To: goldstategop

"Any one asking for an ARM is a fool. That's the way to certain foreclosure. An ARM makes sense if you have a steady income and you intend to live in a home only a few years. But if this your home for life, a traditional 30 year fixed is always the safer option. I suspect if they had taken a 30 year fixed, they wouldn't be facing foreclosure now."

Depending on the research you read, the average American lives in their home 7 yrs and in their mortgage 5 years. For those that aren't living in their "forever" home, ARMS can make a lot of sense. The issue isn't the type of loan, it's the loan amount, lack of down payment, living beyond their means.


44 posted on 12/04/2006 2:51:51 PM PST by Greg_99 (Sua Sponte)
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To: Terpin

Not just loan officers. Realtors use the phrase "push up" to young couples. "You will be making MORE money in the years to come....blah blah" When we looked for our first house we dumped our realtor because she only showed us homes that were above our price range.


45 posted on 12/04/2006 2:52:27 PM PST by bonfire
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To: goldstategop

hubby and I bought our starter home three years ago this month. Boy did they try everything to get us to avoid the very traditional loan I insisted on. We bought a smaller how than we would have liked, but when hubby was unemployed we could still comfortably make our mortgage payments.

We thought we would sell by this time, but turns out we're just fine where we are, and don't have the pressure of an ARM bearing down on us. I still want a bigger house, but we will do it when we can afford it through thick and thin.

The loan officer told me at the time that we were one of the cleanest loan applications he had seen in a while. Thirty years, 20% down and no prepayment penalty.


46 posted on 12/04/2006 2:58:35 PM PST by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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To: Last Laugh

"Beer budget and champagne tastes". Bingo. Learning to live within your means is one of the true hallmarks of adulthood.

Our congregation had a family who had the same problem, perhaps worse. They didn't own a home but they rented a very nice one (and proceeded to trash it). They were constantly in need of help with bills and groceries yet their home was filled to the rafters with toys, toys, toys as in huge television, nice furniture, pool table, several computers, guns, game systems, motorcycles, the best cooking equipment and on and on. They took their kids to Disneyland and other places. When I would help them on their food orders, their menus amazed me. I couldn't think of any other parishioner who could afford to eat as that family wanted to do. In one two-week order, they wanted 68 pounds of high quality meat, all for a family of with six kids ranging from age twelve to newborn. They wanted bacon and eggs for breakfast, chicken enchiladas for lunch and roast for dinner, every night. This was a family where only the husband worked, and sporadically at best, where the couple had married in their teens and had little or no upward bound job prospects yet they wanted to live like the yuppie professionals around them.

They eventually moved away and I saw the husband awhile back, picking up more food paid by their congregation, still living far beyond their means. I suppose my congregation was somewhat at fault for enabling them but when we or another congregation would start to put pressure on them to scale down their lifestyle, they just picked up and moved on to another gullible group. They will probably never grow up.

When my husband and I moved to California back in 1992, I nearly choked at the home prices. A wise supervisor at my husband's business advised us to try to purchase a home with which we could live for a long time. He said he saw too many younger people settle for an inadequate house, thinking they would move up, but instead being stuck in a home they hated. We went with the upper limit of what was advisable for us and it worked. Of course, we were very frugal, use no credit cards, and our only debt is the house, in which we now have around $400K equity. Most people take risks. A few of us luck out. A lot get burned like this couple.




47 posted on 12/04/2006 2:59:17 PM PST by caseinpoint
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To: gogeo

>>Come on...they both lost their jobs, she has cancer, he just started a new career...and the wrong mortgage is the problem?<<

Your point is well taken.

However, he now has a job. And the resetting of the load was a problem regardless. However, this is not as unusual a case as you might think. Lot's of people have health problems. She had a benign growth removed. Happens to lots of people. Usually they don't even loose their jobs.

And buying a home with zero down and interest only when you are not well established?! That is just asking for trouble - which a lot of people do.


48 posted on 12/04/2006 3:03:46 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: goldstategop

And one of the reasons the housing prices are where they are today is becuase demand was created out of thin air via crazy loans to people that could not really afford them. As with any pyramid scheme, if you got in early you are ok. If later, well, that's why pyramids are bad.

Oh, and the "thin air" from where the buyers came was "renting". I've been renting in the Seattle area for eight years now. While housing prices have skyrocketed, rents have been absolutely flat. I guess there is no shortage of homes.


49 posted on 12/04/2006 3:06:43 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: Last Laugh

Although I tend to agree, the fact is that the old "champaigne taste on a beer budget" used to get people in trouble. Now it can ruin them for life.

You can quickly get into so much more trouble than you could just a decade ago. It took serious incompetance and financial narcissism in the past to get into the kind of trouble you can pretty much just slide into today - with a lot of peoples blessing.


50 posted on 12/04/2006 3:09:21 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: mockingbyrd

Exactly what my wife and I did. We have friends who, if the lender said they could spend 300,000 they went right ahead and borrowed it all.

We kept ours to approx 150, it's small, it's ours and I don't have to go out a get a second job.

Also I think I'm the only one sleeping at night.

Also no ARM thank god.


51 posted on 12/04/2006 3:11:41 PM PST by JNL
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To: RobRoy

I wonder how much of the SEA RE market is speculator-driven?
I suspect a correction in the works...


52 posted on 12/04/2006 3:29:10 PM PST by rahbert
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To: RobRoy
This woman is an accountant:

Pam acknowledged she didn't carefully read all the documents and hadn't fully realized that for the first two years, they would pay just the interest on the loan, and that the interest rate would reset this coming spring.

I guess even idiots can become accountants these days.

53 posted on 12/04/2006 3:31:45 PM PST by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Getting an 80/20 to avoid PMI is not insane. Paying PMI is insane.

Interest only is at least idiotic, if not insane.


54 posted on 12/04/2006 3:34:40 PM PST by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: goldstategop
Any one asking for an ARM is a fool. That's the way to certain foreclosure.

Certain foreclosure? All ARMs end in foreclosure?

55 posted on 12/04/2006 3:36:39 PM PST by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: LC HOGHEAD
...so why didn't they buy a cheaper house???

A ha!

Now you've gone and done it. You've made sense.

56 posted on 12/04/2006 3:38:15 PM PST by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: rahbert

My brother owns two downtown condos now. He only lives in one. ;)


57 posted on 12/04/2006 3:42:48 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: Cvengr
Today, you really need a lawyer just to understand the forms being completed.

The note is usually four pages, and the adjustability is carefully spelled out. And ARMs have a disclosure statement in layman's language. Even the Truth-in-Lending states on its face a payment that applies for 24 or 36 months, followed by an estimate of the higher payment that follows. It's not impenetrable.

Certainly not to an accountant, anyway...

58 posted on 12/04/2006 3:42:50 PM PST by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: Petronski

Sometimes there are no "cheaper homes".

My friend sold his dump three bedroom rambler on a postage stamp lot for $305k.

Unless I was swapping homes, I would be a fool to enter the real estate market at this time, with these prices.


59 posted on 12/04/2006 3:45:00 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: goldstategop

You are correct. Theres one hell of a lot of mumbo jumbo on those 50 page docs you sign.


60 posted on 12/04/2006 3:46:13 PM PST by winodog
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