[70times7]

Oh, now there are rules against weapons? Silly me. How about if I just walk up and pummel the daylights out of you or someone else just for fun? A person need not restrain a desire for drugs or sex or whatever you say, but if I want to take your stuff then Uh Uh Uhhh, naughty naughty! Why? Because you say "A" is ok, but "B" should be out of bounds?

Tell ya what, when I invade your home if you don't resist I will not shoot you. You may have to put in some overtime to cover the deductable, but file the claim and you will get it all back. Presto - the "victimless crime"! Those are Ok and you should be happy now.

I was discussing the overarching issue of a nanny state government and how we, as a society, bring it on ourselves. You took issue with a particular statement sans context. If you want to limit the discussion to some list that you believe helps your argument have fun; seems pointless to me with such constraints so count me out.

[elkfersupper]

I like the old definition of "crime" - physical or monetary harm to people or property.