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To: DelphiUser; JRochelle
DU, Abraham's polygamy is an extremely poor case study if you are arguing for divine approval of polygamy.

God gave Abraham assurance that he would have many descendants.

Yet Abraham and Sarah did not have faith in this assurance and the taking of Hagar as a concubine was an act of doubt in God's providence.

The issue of the concubinage with Hagar was a curse to Abraham, Ishmael and his descendants were persecutors of his true heirs and are to this very day.

Scripture shows that Abraham's polygamy was an utter and enduring disaster.

52 posted on 12/14/2006 6:54:04 AM PST by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake

>>DU, Abraham's polygamy is an extremely poor case study if you are arguing for divine approval of polygamy.

OK, then logically disprove it.
Also disprove Jacob’s
Also disprove David’s (before Bathsheba)
I’ve got more, just not as famous.

>>God gave Abraham assurance that he would have many descendants.

Yes he did, and it was because Abraham was very righteous, not because he was going to become an adulterer.

>>Yet Abraham and Sarah did not have faith in this assurance and the taking of
>>Hagar as a concubine was an act of doubt in God's providence.

Got Scripture?

No?

Got Speculation = Got Nothing.

>>The issue of the concubinage with Hagar was a curse to Abraham,
>>Ishmael and his descendants were persecutors of his true heirs and
>>are to this very day.

Persecution is not a curse, quite often it keeps the persecuted on the path God intends for them.

>>Scripture shows that Abraham's polygamy was an utter and enduring disaster.

We seem to have problem here with the confusion of Opinion (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/opinion) and Fact (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fact). Many on this forum continually state their opinion as fact. I understand this proclivity as the Media today does this all the time. However, it does not become us, and it does not make for polite and rational discussions (however it can be fun to attack with logic, and I am having fun on this thread!)


57 posted on 12/14/2006 8:33:27 AM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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