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10 WAYS TO FIGHT MOHAMMED-WORSHIP
December 16, 2006 | Urbane Guerilla

Posted on 12/16/2006 1:06:03 PM PST by Urbane_Guerilla

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To: Urbane_Guerilla

"WE LOVE MOSLEMS, WE PITY THEM, WE HOPE FOR THEIR REVERSION TO HUMANITY"

Shame on any Christian who would consider any Muslim less than human, as this quote does. Muslims are children of God. God loves them and sent Jesus to die for them as well as us. Would any of the ten points listed here be effective in softening their hearts and preparing them to accept the testimony of Christ? If not, you need to try something more effective.

This question goes right to the heart of what really works to save souls. What did Jesus do to save people? He taught them truth in the spirit of kindness and then he submitted himself to die to prove his point. He was willing to go to his death to prove that love overcomes all things.

If Christians want to save Muslims, there will be more Christian martyrs, but that is what will reach them. Bombing them, arguing with them, bashing them with condemning Bible verses, and calling them inhuman will not achieve what God desires. If the war on terror is to be stopped, it will take this same kind of love Christ showed us all.


21 posted on 12/16/2006 2:16:08 PM PST by gregwest
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To: Cicero
After all, if you look at the actual life of Muhammed, that supposed greatest of profits and best of men, it is nothing short of disgusting. Only a cowardly bully would admire it. Muhammed was a liar, a thief, a murderer, a coward, a bully, a slave taker, an abuser of women, and a nutcase.

Odd, every week and especially this time of year we are flooded with 'Life of Christ' movies, TV specials.
These range from Biblical reenactments to Christ married, had children nonsense.

Has there been a 'Life of Mohammad' program?
I've never seen one.
Wonder why.

22 posted on 12/16/2006 2:16:50 PM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: backtothestreets

We need to invade those closed communities. We need to aggressively confront those neighbors. When we see a moslem woman at the store, we should go up to her and invite her to our home for tea or whatever. We must not be shy or we will go the way of Lebanon and Great Britain. We must take the offensive and not just sit back and grumble.

We are at war and we MUST confront the enemy. Forget who in the world is sending them; God is ultimately in control. Yes, even over those heathen nations.


23 posted on 12/16/2006 2:24:52 PM PST by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ If life were "fair", we'd all go to hell. I'm glad there is grace.)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

This is a war of survival. That is the only idea everyone should focus on. Either non-Muslims survive, or Islam survives. The history of Islam shows these to be the only choices.

We have to learn quickly as non-Muslims that not everyone wants to just get along with others. That is our biggest challenge. We are weak because we convince ourselves everyone would prefer to be like us and live in harmony if given the opportunity. What we want and what Islam wants are at complete opposites, and only one will survive.


24 posted on 12/16/2006 2:25:58 PM PST by backtothestreets (Invite Jesus to pray with you.)
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To: Amos the Prophet
Confronting the false religion of Islam is secondary to confronting the false religion of humanism. There is One God, not a shopping cart full of demiurges. We must overcome the dominance of relativism in our own house. In this Christians stand together with Muslim fanatics. Both agree that cultural depravity is the true enemy. Judaism and Christianity must demand that society end its love affair with immorality. Until we are strong enough to confront our own demons we will not have the character or the strength to confront Islam.

I think you are exactly wrong, but I think you describe the exact reason why our President refuses to tell the truth.

islam has no interest, as you do, in overcoming humanism. islam has as its sole interest, the destruction of you and every other infidel.

But some Christians, and I believe our president is one, have the illogical notion that by telling the truth about mohammed-worship, they somehow implicate the worship of Jesus.

You can worry about the humanists if you want. I am sorry you think that is more important than fighting jihad.

But you will soon shift your priorities, I believe. I could be wrong. I hope I am wrong. But I doubt I am wrong.

25 posted on 12/16/2006 2:26:11 PM PST by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
religion of peace
26 posted on 12/16/2006 2:29:36 PM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Jemian

This is a subject close to my heart. But, I do live on the other side of the world and I must get ready for the day. Please forgive me for not responding further, in a timely fashion. I'll answer when I return to the 'net tonight.


27 posted on 12/16/2006 2:30:39 PM PST by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ If life were "fair", we'd all go to hell. I'm glad there is grace.)
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To: Popman

"Muslims don't worship the Mo man. They consider that idolatry."

Except for the people who rioted after the Danish cartoon and the Pope's comment.


28 posted on 12/16/2006 2:30:58 PM PST by Soothesayer (Birth is murder!)
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To: Vinnie

Islam forbids representations of Muhammed. Islam tends to be an iconoclastic religion. At various times and places, Muslims have permitted artists to depict persons and scenes. But the strictest versions of Islam disallow any kind of painting, and in particular depictions of Muhammed.

There are exceptions, even in that case. But no one would dare make a movie about Muhammed in which an actor actually played the part, because there would be riots, burnings, and retribution against the makers of the film. I believe Hollywood did make a movie about Islam, but without actually showing Muhammed.

In any case, if you had a movie about Muhammed, it would most likely be politically correct and gloss over the real details.


29 posted on 12/16/2006 2:31:16 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
It's important to emphasize that most Muslims are simply deluded, not consciously evil.

Correct.

Most Muslims I know and I know several, are very ill informed about their religion. One of the biggest mistakes western people, especially Christians make is to think Christianity and Islam are similar. Nothing is further from the truth

Christianity is basically about "truth", Islam is about "submission" In many ways I am far more informed about their religion than they are because of 9/11.

Most Muslims are just like the back slided Christian that go to church twice a year, they will tell you they are Christians, but in reality they are Christian in name only, many Muslims have the same problem

When comparing the Mo man to Jesus.

The Koran tells the Muslim that Jesus preformed miracles, the Mo man didn't.

The Koran tells the Muslim Jesus was virgin born, the Mo man was an illiterate pedophile.

The Koran tells the Muslim Jesus was sinless, the Mo man was told to repent

There Koran tells them that the Mo man was the greater prophet, but because of ignorance they never really understand who Christ is.

30 posted on 12/16/2006 2:36:56 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: gregwest
Shame on any Christian who would consider any Muslim less than human, as this quote does. Muslims are children of God. God loves them and sent Jesus to die for them as well as us. Would any of the ten points listed here be effective in softening their hearts and preparing them to accept the testimony of Christ? If not, you need to try something more effective. This question goes right to the heart of what really works to save souls. What did Jesus do to save people? He taught them truth in the spirit of kindness and then he submitted himself to die to prove his point. He was willing to go to his death to prove that love overcomes all things. If Christians want to save Muslims, there will be more Christian martyrs, but that is what will reach them. Bombing them, arguing with them, bashing them with condemning Bible verses, and calling them inhuman will not achieve what God desires. If the war on terror is to be stopped, it will take this same kind of love Christ showed us all.

I respect your pov, but I vigorously disagree with it.

One of the greatest movies ever made is Zulu.

It is inevitable that we will have our Christians, such as the Christian in that movie. So be it.

worshippers of mohammed do not need their hearts softened. They need their skulls penetrated, and their minds opened. Minds are opened by the truth, not by emotion.

31 posted on 12/16/2006 2:38:02 PM PST by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: Soothesayer
Except for the people who rioted after the Danish cartoon and the Pope's comment.

They rioted because the Mo man is not supposed to be rendered at all, as to have people NOT worship him.

In other words it was a political ploy to stoke up the Arab street.

32 posted on 12/16/2006 2:39:58 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: Jemian
"We need to invade those closed communities."

Suggestions on how that might be accomplished? There is one not far from us here in Fresno, California. It is a large fenced, self-contained community including armed guard. There are many such Muslim communities throughout our nation now.
33 posted on 12/16/2006 2:40:18 PM PST by backtothestreets (Invite Jesus to pray with you.)
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To: Cicero

Not to mention, Islam thrives on tribalism.


34 posted on 12/16/2006 2:41:15 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

bookmark ping for a read later , & THANKS Urbane_Guerilla


35 posted on 12/16/2006 2:41:24 PM PST by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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To: Cicero
There are exceptions, even in that case. But no one would dare make a movie about Muhammed in which an actor actually played the part, because there would be riots, burnings, and retribution against the makers of the film. I believe Hollywood did make a movie about Islam, but without actually showing Muhammed.

I could see somebody making a porn movie about Mad Mo and his harem. But he would have to do it under an alias and make very sure he was never found

36 posted on 12/16/2006 2:46:52 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

They are susceptible to logic and truth, just as any human being is

These are Religious fanatics, willing to Die and murder others, they are past reason, deviod of Logic....

They are barely Human, they kill as no human can, other than that all similarity to human beings ends there.

Tehy are more closely related to a Mad Dog.
if you saw a mad dog walking down the street ( foaming at the mouth ) comming towards your infant child you...

A. Try to talk reason.

B. appeal to His Logic.

C. empty a clip from Your rifle into his Body, then Burn the corpse.

D. ask the UN and Koffi Anan to enguage in Dialog.


37 posted on 12/16/2006 2:48:45 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

bookmark


38 posted on 12/16/2006 2:49:13 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: All

If someone had told me right after 9/11 that President Bush would be hosting at the White House Shi'ite cleric Abdul Aziz al-Hakim, the head of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, as the President did last week, I would not have ever believed it.


39 posted on 12/16/2006 2:50:49 PM PST by jamese777
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To: Popman
There Koran tells them that the Mo man was the greater prophet, but because of ignorance they never really understand who Christ is.

I know you do not intend it, and by no means do I wish to deprecate you, but what you say is moslem propaganda. It indeed shows that a little knowledge is dangerous.

Put aside the fact that moslems disparage and spit upon the Christian understanding of Jesus.

More importantly, despite the fact that they say Jesus was a great prophet, they do not in any way shape or form follow the message or teachings of Jesus. This is very important to understand: worshippers of mohammed DO NOT rely on the truthful understanding of what they believe. They rely on the shallow and completely mistaken understanding of infidels, to take advantage of the witless kafirs.

No, to the contrary, they say that what Westerners believe is the message of Jesus is all a lie and deliberate distortion of God's wishes.

They believe that what Jesus really taught were the absurd and evil banalities taught by the narcissistic sociopath they worship.

40 posted on 12/16/2006 2:52:46 PM PST by Urbane_Guerilla
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