[B-Chan]

Exactly. All this whining about "socialized medicine" is idiotic. We already have socialized medicine: it's called the County ER. Since we as a nation have already decided that government is going to be the healthcare provider of last resort, the only question left is exactly what form we want our ""socialized medicine" to take.

[A. Pole]

All this whining about "socialized medicine" is idiotic.

The defenders of status quo can take comfort in the fact that there will be one industrialized country without universal health care left - South Africa. They accept immigrants from USA so ...