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Ethiopian Troops Advance on Mogadishu (May Capture Somali Captial in 24-48 hrs)
Reuters News Alert ^ | December 27, 2006 | Salad Duhul

Posted on 12/26/2006 6:58:34 AM PST by meg88

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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
"Japan and Germany were also mono-ethnic (ethnic being cultural ethnicity), something that is not the case with Iraq, a country made by the British. "

This is true and another reason why the Marshall Plan model is a bad one for Iraq.

"Japan readily fell in line because their religion was not totally wiped out, but was rather coopted. The emperor ordered the Japanese to obey the American forces, and so they did."

Actually, their religion WAS in that the Emperor was undeified. Their god was killed by MacArthur.
201 posted on 12/27/2006 8:21:43 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: CharlesWayneCT
" (and Italy, I wonder if they ever feel left out). "

Italy switched sides.

"Kuwait is a good example in fact, we "invaded" Kuwait but we most certainly were trying NOT to damage anything in the country, or hurt any of the people -- because the enemy was the Iraqi military, and we were trying to liberate Kuwait, not go to war with it. "

Like it or not, Saddam's government was the recognized government of Iraq. Kuwait is a very bad example here. The European Theater equivalent to Kuwait is France. Kuwait was a conquered country.

"One advantage of installing democracies is that you SHOULD be able to blame the people for their government."

Ah, but you can't force "freedom" at the barrel of a gun AND "democracy" generally leads to tyranny. The Marshall Plan is the wrong plan to follow for Iraq. It only worked with Germany and Japan due to the Allies utterly defeating them and destroying their government ideologies. We have NOT done this with Iraq. In fact, elevating Islam as the highest law in their constitution shows we miss the point entirely and have not learned from Attaturk's experiment with Turkey.

Needless to say, State Department flunkies tend to have "international relations" degrees, not history.
202 posted on 12/27/2006 8:26:31 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: oldbrowser
I believe we are progressing very well and the problem is the unrealistic expectation that are being promoted by the opposition within the USA.

Very well said !!!!

203 posted on 12/27/2006 8:28:19 PM PST by dfwddr (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword:folding.)
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To: SauronOfMordor
I see no utility to the West to leave anything standing in Mogadishu

As long as the Ethiopians are up to the task, the West should stay out of it!!
I have a hunch that they are not going to be one teensy bit squeemish about using any tactic at all that is effective in erradicating the problem - even panties on the head, if that's what it takes. We best stay behind the scene.

204 posted on 12/27/2006 9:28:50 PM PST by Nevermore
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To: TomGuy
The mission WAS accomplished, and the plan for creating a democracy in the vaccuum of losing a terrorist dictator is being successfully carried out.

I hate it when freepers mimic the MSM.......

205 posted on 12/28/2006 8:03:58 AM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - courageously and honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: popdonnelly

Notice how a Third World country with a fifth rate military is kicking the Islamofascists in the rear because they are not playing "gentlemen" with them. We must unleash our military if we are to win.


206 posted on 12/28/2006 9:14:04 AM PST by juliej ( - vote GOP!)
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To: Cicero

No, Somalia Islamofascists delandae sunt.


207 posted on 12/28/2006 9:15:10 AM PST by juliej ( - vote GOP!)
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To: happygrl
Does anyone remember the brief war fought about twenty-five years ago when Tanzania, I believe, invaded Somalia ?

Answered my own question: The Ogaden War

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/somalia3.htm

208 posted on 12/28/2006 11:27:54 AM PST by happygrl
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To: meg88

Welcome Ethipia to WWIII! Our new allies fighting a war against tyranny and oppressive "religion" designed by a sixth century bill klintoon. This war will touch everyone one the planet before it is all said, and done.


209 posted on 12/28/2006 12:28:55 PM PST by Issaquahking (Trust can't be bought)
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To: HonestConservative

>I wonder if they'd be calling for the same should
>Islamofascists have invaded Ethiopia.

This is a sure sign the Muslims are losing.


210 posted on 12/28/2006 12:51:53 PM PST by ROTB (Our Constitution...only for a [Christian] people...it is wholly inadequate for any other.-J.Q.Adams)
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To: ROTB
Strategy page has said that Ethiopian troops have taken the capital, standing aside so that the government troops could do the deed. They also said that the US is helping with sat. intel. and money for gas. :^)
211 posted on 12/28/2006 1:06:31 PM PST by SSR1
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To: juliej

>Third World country with a fifth rate military is kicking
>the Islamofascists

Some of the other posts in this thread indicate that the Ethiopian solider is magnificently brave and professional.


212 posted on 12/28/2006 1:43:25 PM PST by ROTB (Our Constitution...only for a [Christian] people...it is wholly inadequate for any other.-J.Q.Adams)
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To: F-117A

"Witnesses reported an unmarked C-130 circling above Galkaayo, close to Puntland." CNN Cache

Since when do we use The Peter Arnet News service as a source...for anything?


213 posted on 12/28/2006 1:58:29 PM PST by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: ROTB

They are obviously doing a great job - and they don't have our strength or weaponry. Imagine if WE REALLY TRIED TO KICK BUTT IN IRAQ.


214 posted on 12/28/2006 2:46:15 PM PST by juliej
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To: TET1968
Since when do we use The Peter Arnet News service as a source...for anything?

That link was to show that even an enemy website originally mentioned the C-130.

If you look further, you will see that the link is to a cache entry. At the top of that page there should be a link to the CNN "REVISED" page. The reference to the C-130 has disappeared down the memory hole!

215 posted on 12/28/2006 2:50:00 PM PST by F-117A (Who is Jamil Hussein?)
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To: bert
You have assumed that W's paln was flawed. It is working but not as fast as the pacifist cowards want it to work.

Ah...but the cowards aren't pacifists and they don't want the plan to work faster.

The cowards are actively working to destroy the plan by engaging in a propaganda war against the United States on behalf of her enemies.

They know exactly what they're doing. It worked in the last election. We need to oppose them more effectively.
216 posted on 01/03/2007 9:50:22 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Grampa Dave

Keep an eye on that guy. He's as dangerous as his co-worker in the ISG, Vernon Jordan.

No...not kidding.


217 posted on 01/03/2007 9:54:08 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

You do it through ridicule and propaganda.

The LEFT knows this fact...and they use it to support that same enemy.


218 posted on 01/03/2007 9:55:41 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: montag813

IEDs and car bombings cannot defeat any military.

IEDs and car bombings are only useful in generating propaganda or assassinations.


219 posted on 01/03/2007 10:03:14 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: RightWhale

Blackhawk Down


220 posted on 01/03/2007 10:07:09 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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