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Saddam lawyers told to pick up his effects
Reuters ^ | 12/29/06 | Mariam Karouny

Posted on 12/29/2006 2:39:42 AM PST by TexKat

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Saddam Hussein's lawyers have been asked to pick up his personal effects but Iraq's Justice Ministry denied it had taken custody of the former president and dismissed a U.S. suggestion he would hang as early as Saturday.

One defense lawyer, who declined to be identified, said Saddam had been handed over by U.S. forces to Iraqi government custody. U.S. military spokesmen said they had nothing to add to a statement late on Thursday that he was still in their control.

Asked about comments from the defense lawyer that Saddam had been handed over, Deputy Justice Minister Bosho Ibrahim told Reuters: "This is not true. He is still with the Americans."

He also dismissed a remark by a senior U.S. official who said there were plans to send Saddam to the gallows as early as Saturday. The ministry, which is in charge of implementing court rulings, would not execute Saddam before January 26, he said.

Khalil al-Dulaimi, who led Saddam's defense team until he was sentenced on November 5, told Reuters: "The Americans called me and asked me to pick up the personal effects."

On Thursday, Saddam was allowed to see two of his half-brothers, who are also in detention at a U.S. base near Baghdad. A lawyer said the former president was in high spirits.

U.S. military and embassy spokesmen dealing with the issue said they had nothing to add to a statement late on Thursday which said Saddam was still in U.S. custody and stressed the need for secrecy over arrangements for security reasons.

Although legally in Iraqi custody, U.S. troops physically keep guard over Saddam. And although Iraqis will carry out the execution, U.S. and Iraqi officials say, it seems likely U.S. forces will stay on hand throughout for fear that opponents of the former leader could turn it into a public spectacle.

Iraqi officials backed away on Thursday from suggestions they would definitely hang him within a month, in line with a 30-deadline set out in the statues of the tribunal. A cabinet minister told Reuters a week-long religious holiday ending only on January 7 would stall any execution.

HAPPY TO BE A MARTYR

Saddam's lawyer said he bade farewell to two of his half brothers on Thursday in a rare prison meeting.

"He was in very high spirits and clearly readying himself," Badie Aref, a defense lawyer, told Reuters after the 69-year-old former leader met half-brothers Watban and Sabawi, who are also both held at the U.S. army's Camp Cropper near Baghdad airport.

"He told them he was happy he would meet his death at the hands of his enemies and be a martyr, not just languish in jail.

The novelty of the U.S.-sponsored process by which Saddam and his third half-brother Barzan, along with another senior member of the Baath party, were condemned on November 5 has left considerable room for wrangling over the timing of any execution among rival factions and between Washington and Baghdad.

"It's none of the Americans' business to decide when," one justice ministry official said on Friday.

Shi'ite Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki had previously said he wanted Saddam hanged this year for the killings, torture and other crimes against fellow Shi'ites in the town of Dujail.

But some of Saddam's fellow Sunnis have warned this could reinforce their community's alienation and many ethnic Kurds want Saddam first convicted of genocide against them in a second trial that is still underway.

Saddam is due back in court in that trial on January 8.

Iraq's Saddam-era penal code bars executions on religious holidays. Eid al-Adha holiday, which follows the annual haj pilgrimage to Mecca, runs until January 7 in Iraq.

Nonetheless, the U.S. official in the United States said Saddam could be hanged within days: "I've heard that it's going to be a couple more days, probably."

(Additional reporting by Suleiman al-Khalidi in Dubai, Ibon Villelabeitia in Baghdad)


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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

i think there is definitely a BIG conflict with Iran coming

any predictions??


21 posted on 12/29/2006 3:46:19 AM PST by myddf
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

I don't go to a lot of movies Sir Francis and I haven't seen that series.

Thank you for your feedback, though.


22 posted on 12/29/2006 3:47:02 AM PST by Cindy
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To: myddf
"BUT...as we await the imminent execution of saddam...i can't shake this fealing i have...i don't know why but i feel like i don't want it to happen

why am i feeling this way?"

Perhaps because you are a "closet" Bleeding Heart Liberal?

23 posted on 12/29/2006 3:48:03 AM PST by albee (The best thing you can do for the poor is.....not be one of them. - Eric Hoffer)
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To: albee

Bleeding Heart Liberal???

NEVER NEVER NEVER...call me anything you like ...but not a liberal!! lol


24 posted on 12/29/2006 3:51:54 AM PST by myddf
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To: DB
I think they are doing all they can do.

It isn't a matter of trying to avoid making them angry. They are already angry. They have already pledged our destruction.

It's a bit like bombing a Nazi ball bearing plant and worrying about making Hitler angry. Hitler was already determined to do what he was doing. The sooner he is stopped the less carnage there will be.
25 posted on 12/29/2006 3:51:57 AM PST by DB
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To: Cindy

It is worth your time.


26 posted on 12/29/2006 3:52:51 AM PST by DB
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To: myddf

Oops... #25 was to you.


27 posted on 12/29/2006 3:53:35 AM PST by DB
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To: myddf; Cindy
i think there is definitely a BIG conflict with Iran coming

any predictions??

I have suggestions... but, I have been told those could get me banned from here...

The only thing that matters is the total destruction of Islam (not necessarily just people).

Mecca is central to Islam, without it Islam could not exist.

Throw the Ring of Power into the fires of Mount Doom and the Dark Tower of Sauron comes crashing down.


You guys (and gals) really need to read the Lord of the Rings or see the movies... It is uncanny how it resembles the fight against Islam...

28 posted on 12/29/2006 3:57:38 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: steelyourfaith
Ramsey Clark needs a gig.

Yeah, something like this flounder gig:

12" long!

(But I'm not advocating violence. Yeah, that's the ticket. Not advocating violence.)

29 posted on 12/29/2006 3:57:41 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: DB

I think Tolkein saw a lot of this coming... He was a very smart man...


30 posted on 12/29/2006 4:01:04 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: myddf
"NEVER NEVER NEVER...call me anything you like ...but not a liberal!! lol"

Hey...I was just trying to be helpful.

LOL

31 posted on 12/29/2006 4:07:13 AM PST by albee (The best thing you can do for the poor is.....not be one of them. - Eric Hoffer)
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To: myddf
BUT...as we await the imminent execution of saddam...i can't shake this fealing i have...i don't know why but i feel like i don't want it to happen

I bet you're a life-long Republican... and frequent, CSPAN caller.

32 posted on 12/29/2006 4:10:39 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: johnny7

actually i am canadian


33 posted on 12/29/2006 4:16:14 AM PST by myddf
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To: TexKat
I still think it's crazy handing him over to the Iraqis. The risk he'll "escape" is too great. But one thing would justify it; namely, knowing that they would skin him alive before hanging him. Said skinning might be taking place right this minute, as we speak.

Sorry, can't help but be cheerful in the morning.

34 posted on 12/29/2006 4:18:06 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: myddf
i think there is definitely a BIG conflict with Iran coming

U.S. takes out Iran's nuke sites with an air strike. President Imanutjob unsuccessfully tries to launch a war...Iranian gov't collapses. Political re-alignment in Iran.

Saudis, Egypt, and Jordan make grumbling noises but are gleeful that Iran is defanged.

Syria pulls a Libya and surrenders the nuke stuff it got from Saddam pre-invasion.

Hezbollah and Hamas launch unsuccessful attacks on Israel. Butts thoroughly whipped.

Bonus prognostication: Iraq splits into three semi-autonomous regions in a loose confederation. Turkey given assurances re: the Kurds.

 

35 posted on 12/29/2006 4:28:37 AM PST by peyton randolph (No man knows the day nor the hour of The Coming of The Great White Handkerchief.)
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To: myddf

You said what I have been feeling/thinking too.

Sometimes when a character/personality has been made to be 'bigger than life' and Saddam certainly maintained a 'bigger than life' persona one can feel uneasy when that person is brought down to real size.

I am hoping this is why I am feeling very uneasy about his immenent punishment. That it is because I have subscribed to him a stature that he was undeserving of and not because his death will be a signal to radical factions in the Middle East.

There are reasons for which they are trying to keep his hanging quiet. We should respect those reasons and let not loose lips sink ships. Media coverage of the event needs to be blacked out.


36 posted on 12/29/2006 4:45:17 AM PST by EBH
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To: LibWhacker
Sorry, can't help but be cheerful in the morning.

Top of the morning to ya!

37 posted on 12/29/2006 4:48:28 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: LibWhacker
"I still think it's crazy handing him over to the Iraqis. The risk he'll "escape" is too great. But one thing would justify it; namely, knowing that they would skin him alive before hanging him. Said skinning might be taking place right this minute, as we speak.

'Face Off' II, starring John Travolta as Donald Rumsfeld and Nicolas Cage as the psycho Saddam Insane. Coming soon to a theater near you. ;^)

"Sorry, can't help but be cheerful in the morning."

Me, either.

38 posted on 12/29/2006 4:59:50 AM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity'. It's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: myddf
do you think there will be attacks in the west?

Baathists: 'Grave consequences' if Hussein's hanged - CNN

Story Highlights•

Party Hussein led says it would hold U.S. responsible for his death

• Party posted warning on al-basrah.net Tuesday

• Message said party "determined to retaliate in all ways"

• Hussein could be executed any time in the next few weeks

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The Baath Party, the political movement that ruled Iraq during the Saddam Hussein era, is warning there will be "grave consequences" if former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein is executed.

Saying it would hold the United States responsible, a message appeared on al-basrah.net Tuesday that read: "The Baath and the resistance are determined to retaliate in all ways and all places that hurt America and its interests if it commits this crime."

more...

39 posted on 12/29/2006 5:00:42 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
If there is dancig in the streets after his hanging, then we were right.

If there is violence in the streets after his hanging then we were right.

40 posted on 12/29/2006 5:03:09 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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