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To: JasonC
Moreover, the errors he makes are readily apparent in our own conduct of this war. Abu grab and waterboarding, anyone? The fruits of trying to win by going after detainees are probably more recruits than anything else that has happened since 9-11, and between them probably lost the recent elections.

We should renounce torture and "rendition", with no fingers crossed.

You quote him talking about how relentless and determined we have to be as though wishing would make it so, when the measures he actually calls for (trying to "break" captives to get plastic banana recantations for propaganda broadcast) as much as anything worked to throw away what determined relentlessness we might have mustered, all for delusional triffles.

Which he would have known if he knew the enemy playbook from Algeria, which they followed so closely they made up parallel bits when we didn't provide close enough excuses.

The enemy ( Al-Qaeda) wants us to torture and commit atrocities, and thus lose hearts and minds, both at home and in Iraq. Just like the French lost in Algeria once goaded into murders and mutilations.

28 posted on 01/06/2007 9:26:35 PM PST by secretagent
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To: secretagent
Xactly.
31 posted on 01/07/2007 11:42:55 AM PST by JasonC
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