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Rethinking Kwanzaa: Jerry Falwell says America has been duped into accepting illegitimate holiday
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 12/30/06 | Jerry Falwell

Posted on 12/30/2006 2:34:47 AM PST by JohnHuang2

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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

No I don't think it's gaining respect. In fact, I think it's falling out of favor with the PC crowd. Here in Atlanta, I can only remember one station that has promos promoting Happy Kwazy...and that's a station that is urban in nature...


141 posted on 12/30/2006 1:02:56 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Lowcountry
"The life and death of Christ is of little dispute."

Oh yes it is worthy of dispute. It is totally made up from whole cloth with threads from prior pagan mythology. Kwanzaa has as much legitimacy as Christmas.

142 posted on 12/30/2006 1:03:05 PM PST by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: Salamander

Woopie! I'm more excited about September....it's menopause awareness month! Yeah, we get a whole month cuz we're special!
:P


143 posted on 12/30/2006 1:07:46 PM PST by derllak
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To: Solitar
You are an idiot. Instead of belching out your ignorance, do yourself and everybody around you a favor, and learn your facts before you announce your OPINION.

There is more historical reference to the life of Jesus than there is to Socrates, Plato, Julius Ceasar and yet I bet you believe they existed.

If you really want some proof of Jesus (which I doubt you do) read The Case For Christ by Lee Strobel.
Lee is a former atheist who was an investigative reporter years ago. He took his experience in investigating facts and applied it to the life of Jesus.

As far as the winter solstice and such, granted Christmas and Easter shanghai'd pagan holidays, but just because someone chooses to create a holiday to counter another doesn't disqualify it as a holiday. If I choose to celebrate Christmas, "I" choose what in the holiday I celebrate. Whether its the religious belief of the birth of Jesus, or its the secular following of Santa Claus. Pagans are still allowed to celebrate the winter solstice.

144 posted on 12/30/2006 3:23:08 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Solitar
At least Groundhog Day has a real groundhog.

Charles Darwin's birthday is February 12th.

Are you connecting the two here ?

Groundhog Day is February 2nd, not February twelvth.

But yes, Virgina, there really is a Groundhog.

145 posted on 12/30/2006 4:35:07 PM PST by happygrl
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To: Solitar
"The life and death of Christ is of little dispute."
Oh yes it is worthy of dispute. It is totally made up from whole cloth with threads from prior pagan mythology

Here is just one of the ancient historians who acknowledged the life of Christ.

Cornelius Tacitus - He was a Roman senator in the late 1st and early 2nd centuries who wrote a 16 volume series on Roman emporers. The following was quoted from his work Annals, 15:44, by Lee Strobel in The Case for Christ:

"Christus [Christ], from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty [crucifixion] during the reign of Tiberius at the hand of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome ..."

Tacitus also wrote that during Nero's reign, the emporer scapegoated "a class hated for their abominations, called Christian by the populace."

Other ancient historians and philosphers who also mention the name of Christus/Christ include Pliny the Younger, Flavius Josephus, Caius Suetonius Tranquillus, Celsus, Lucian of Samosata, and Porphyry of Tyre.

Run a Google search and you will come up with a number of quotations from the above mentioned men. To my knowledge, none of those mentioned were Christian. Some of them even wrote scathing attacks against those calling themselves Christians.

I strongly believe evidence shows Jesus of Nazareth did exist on this earth.

146 posted on 12/30/2006 4:54:55 PM PST by Genesis defender
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To: Dudoight
Kwanza is pure BS and will eventually fade away.

Of course it's not-so-pure hossheep. And, no it will never die, my brother. People are already writing dissertations upon this wonderful feast. It is now part of the Black Hustory syllabus.

Books on Kwanzaa? required reading.

147 posted on 12/30/2006 5:29:57 PM PST by Kenny Bunk ( Republicans could use an attack dog right about now.)
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To: derllak

Are you serious?!?

I had no idea there was even a "special month" for that!

[does that mean we can get away with whatever we please for 30 days?].....;-D


148 posted on 12/30/2006 6:12:27 PM PST by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: Solitar

The very concept of rights is founded in religion.

Since the enlightened person is freed from any superstitions about some "God," they are free from having to worry about "rights." Only raw power counts and humans are just meat puppets for the powerful.

Look at this puppet on a string...

http://pandachute.com/videos/leaked_saddam_being_hung_video



149 posted on 12/30/2006 6:22:22 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: happygrl
Groundhog Day is February 2nd

Saint Walpurgis Day... Walpurgisnacht...

150 posted on 12/30/2006 6:25:18 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: happygrl
Groundhog Day is February 2nd

Saint Walpurgis Day... Walpurgisnacht...

151 posted on 12/30/2006 6:25:23 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Salamander

ROFL! I'm VERY serious. I just read about it yesterday. Forgot where or I'd tell you.
Can we get away with ANYTHING for the whole month? Ya think anybody will mess with us if we try? :)


152 posted on 12/30/2006 6:32:03 PM PST by derllak
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To: Colonel Kangaroo; All

No that is Love Day....


153 posted on 12/30/2006 6:33:54 PM PST by KevinDavis (Nancy you ignorant Slut!!!!!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I am a black man who lives in the black community. We have been absolutely HOBBLED by liberalism and socialism. The Great Society Welfare State (together with other counter cultural rot from the sixties) destroyed the 2 parent black family and solidified a too ready reliance on government to solve societal ills. This counterfeit holiday was concocted by a psychopathic Marxist thug who was lookin for a way to make Communism MORE palatable to the Black community by wrapping it in ersatz African cultural traditions.

ANYONE who exposes this jive is OK with me.


154 posted on 12/30/2006 7:01:46 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Saint Walpurgis Day... Walpurgisnacht...

Good times, good times.

155 posted on 12/30/2006 7:02:44 PM PST by Wormwood (I'm with you in Rockland)
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To: Solitar; JohnHuang2

Why are you here, on a Conservative site, spouting such stuff? What gives you the right to insult the Christians on this forum? To call their God "mythical"? While I'm not a Christian myself, I find your comments to be insulting. Would you go into a Christian church and yell that Jesus is mythical? Because that's essentially what you're doing. The majority of people on this forum are Christians, and it would be wise to respect their religion. Can I make it any clearer? You are being very disrespectful here.


156 posted on 12/30/2006 7:03:16 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
This phony invention is gaining respect. Just like the Rev Al has gained respect.

Only by politically correct fools. Normal, red-blooded Americans still know it is complete nonsense; although most of them would not admit it in public.

157 posted on 12/30/2006 7:11:10 PM PST by jamaly (I evacuate early and often!)
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To: Miss Marple; JohnHuang2
On the first day of Kwanzaa Karenga gave to me
A Marxist in a red tree.

On the second day of Kwanzaa Karenga gave to me
Two Jaily birds,
And a Marxist in a red tree.

On the third day of Kwanzaa Karenga gave to me
Three Dixie Chicks.
Two Jaily birds,
And a Marxist in a red tree.

On the fourth day of Kwanzaa Karenga gave to me
Four Lenin busts.
Three Dixie Chicks,
Two Jaily birds,
And a Marxist in a red tree.

On the fifth day of Kwanzaa Karenga gave to me
Five fel-on-ies.
Four Lenin busts,
Three Dixie Chicks,
Two Jaily birds,
And a Marxist in a red tree.

On the sixth day of Kwanzaa Karenga gave to me
Six Castro jumpsuits.
Five fel-on-ies,
Four Lenin busts,
Three Dixie Chicks,
Two Jaily birds,
And a Marxist in a red tree.

On the seventh day of Kwanzaa Karenga gave to me
Seven Mao pajamas,
Six Castro jumpsuits,
Five fel-on-ies,
Four Lenin busts
Three Dixie Chicks,
Two Jaily birds,
And a Marxist in a red tree.

158 posted on 12/30/2006 7:43:03 PM PST by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Didn't know that, better do some googling.


159 posted on 12/30/2006 7:45:48 PM PST by happygrl
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To: Non-Sequitur
John, whither you like it or not Jerry and Ann still have a right to their opinions.If you don't like their premise, then go on to the next topic. This is what I do when I see one of your rantings.
160 posted on 12/30/2006 8:06:31 PM PST by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
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