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4X4s To Be Priced Off The Road (UK)
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 1-12-2007 | Charles Clover

Posted on 01/11/2007 7:04:24 PM PST by blam

4x4s to be priced off the road

By Charles Clover, Environment Editor
Last Updated: 2:41am GMT 12/01/2007

Gas-guzzling sports cars, 4x4s and people carriers could be priced off the road within five years after a crackdown on carbon emissions to be announced by the European Commission this month.

The average new car in 2012 will have to emit no more than 120 grams of carbon per kilometre under proposals to be announced by Stavros Dimas, the European Environment Commissioner.

Under threat: 4x4s parked on a residential street in London

He said yesterday that they were needed because of the failure of European car makers to keep to a voluntary agreement signed in 1998 to reduce emissions by 25 per cent by 2008. They have managed 13 per cent and the agreement ends next year.

The Citroen C3 diesel emits exactly 120 grams of carbon per kilometre — the average that the European Commission will set as a legal requirement for every car manufacturer's range in 2012. A supercharged Range Rover Sport V8 emits 376 grams and a five-door petrol Ford Focus 1.6 emits 184 —which indicates the degree of progress required to meet the new standard.

The hybrid petrol-electric Toyota Prius — regarded as one of the greenest cars on the market — produces 104 g/km.

Car manufacturers said the proposals, which apply only to new cars, would prove devastating for stand-alone sports car builders, such as Porsche, and specialist manufacturers such as Land Rover.

Mr Dimas insisted that they would not be forced out of business. The way he sees the legislation working is that manufacturers would subsidise cheaper, volume family cars and pass the increased costs of developing new, low-emission vehicles on to the buyers of more polluting cars.

This is what is already believed to happen with Toyota, which effectively subsidises the Prius, which entered the market at around £16,000 whereas the true cost of producing it is far more. The extra cost is passed on to luxury models in its range.

Mr Dimas said that the five year introduction period would give manufacturers time to invest in the technology to produce low-emission cars from lighter materials which were already practicable.

Mr Dimas said that Gu(with umlaut)nter Verheugen, (ck) the anti-red-tape German Commissioner for Enterprise and Industry accepted that regulation was now inevitable if Europe was to meet its commitments on tackling climate change.

The measures are just some of the radical moves Mr Dimas has announced over the past two months.

Others include a 20 per cent reduction in Europe's greenhouse gas emissions by 2020, tougher curbs on industry and the inclusion of aviation within the EU's carbon trading scheme.

The new proposals, to be set out in two weeks time, will need to be approved by ministers and the European Parliament, which could take three years. They will then have to be translated into law in the 25 member states.

Controversially, the new legislation will also apply to Japanese, American and other manufacturers who export cars to Europe.

The tax measures and financial incentives to help consumers and manufacturers achieve the new targets will be up to individual countries, he said.

The Dutch for example give tax incentives which make it more attractive to buy low emission cars.

Sigrid Devries, a spokesman for ACEA, the European Automobile Manufacturers Association, said: "This would make cars prohibitively expensive. The Commission's own studies show that it would add 5,000 euros to the price of a car and manufacturers would have to move production outside Europe.

"This is not a done deal. There is a lot of opposition to this within the Commission itself."

Nigel Wonnacott of the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders said: "Most manufacturers would move production east if this came into force. There will be tough times ahead for British sports car and luxury car makers."

Jeremy Clarkson, the presenter of BBC's Top Gear, said the idea of averaging the emissions of a manufacturer's range was identical to that used for cars in the United States where many loopholes exist. For example, sports utility vehicles are exempt because they are classed as trucks.

He said: "I would anticipate that a lot of car manufacturers will start making bicycles. There will be a Lamborghini bicycle, a Peugeot bicycle, a Ferrari bicycle and a BMW bicycle.

"My theory is they will say, Look, these are all zero emissions and get out of it that way."

An industry source said: "We have seen an awful lot of grumbling before over proposals and whether manufacturers could possibly meet them.

"The best example of what technology can do when it has to is 1939. The Royal Air Force went into battle with biplanes but within five years they had jet engines."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 4x4; cars; climatechange; energy; environment; gassguzzling; govwatch; sports

1 posted on 01/11/2007 7:04:27 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

this is exactly the model the left wants for the US - and california will be the first place that makes this move.

in the US, if you want to buy a car that exceeds the threshold - you will have to buy a yearly carbon credit for it.


2 posted on 01/11/2007 7:07:19 PM PST by oceanview
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To: blam

UPS goes first.


3 posted on 01/11/2007 7:12:40 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil

Might be Church activity vans or busses that go first.


4 posted on 01/11/2007 7:14:41 PM PST by unkus
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To: blam

California's RINO governor is leading a similar charge here.


5 posted on 01/11/2007 7:17:11 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Well, it's 2007. Time to get ready for 2008.)
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To: blam

Incentive to develop the fuel cell, natural gas or electric Hummer.


6 posted on 01/11/2007 7:20:17 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: blam

What's off-road in EU anyway- those faggy dells, glens, bogs, fens and moors?


7 posted on 01/11/2007 7:20:31 PM PST by fat city (What part of cognitive dissonance don't you understand?)
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To: blam
Other stories state that the requirement is for 120 g of carbon dioxide (not just carbon) per kilometer. If you are burning pure octane that comes to about 42 miles / gallon to get 120 g of CO2 / km.
8 posted on 01/11/2007 7:23:23 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Baker's Iraq Surrender Group - warming up the last helicopter out of Baghdad.)
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To: oceanview
I was behind a car last week on Southbound 680 in Walnut Creek that was belching so much smoke you couldn't see past it. When I managed to get by, I couldn't help but notice that the car was filled with "day laborers". They obviously get a pass on pollution (along with every other law in the country). This isn't about pollution. It's about leviathan government raking in the cash and controlling every aspect of our lives.
9 posted on 01/11/2007 7:24:29 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Well, it's 2007. Time to get ready for 2008.)
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To: fat city

They sure don't have anything like our Monument Valley.


10 posted on 01/11/2007 7:24:52 PM PST by unkus
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To: KarlInOhio

42 mpg requirement? Well my Dodge Ram 2500 would not quite make it... I generally get 8 to 10 mpg.

Thanks for doing the math on this one!


11 posted on 01/11/2007 7:28:10 PM PST by RebelBanker (May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.)
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To: edcoil

UPS goes first in California - everywhere else is OK.


12 posted on 01/11/2007 7:31:40 PM PST by x_plus_one (Allah has no son.)
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To: RebelBanker
I had lots of estimations to get to it (the biggest is pure octane rather than and octane/heptane mix), I wanted to at least get in the neighborhood to see if everyone would be driving compacts or motorscooters.
13 posted on 01/11/2007 7:33:25 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Baker's Iraq Surrender Group - warming up the last helicopter out of Baghdad.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Many states (notably California) have so many requirements, taxes and so forth that they make newer cars a LOT more expensive. Thus, anyone on the lower end of the socio-economic scale is forced to drive a "Sanford-and-Son-mobile" if they want a vehicle. My brother quit riding a motorcycle because those junkers were leaving so much fluid on the roads that it was too dangerous to be on two wheels.
14 posted on 01/11/2007 7:34:03 PM PST by RebelBanker (May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.)
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To: unkus
"They sure don't have anything like our Monument Valley."

Right on- or badlands, death valley, salt flats, ad damn near infinitum.

15 posted on 01/11/2007 7:47:21 PM PST by fat city (What part of cognitive dissonance don't you understand?)
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To: blam
Future UK utility vehicles: Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
16 posted on 01/11/2007 8:08:09 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: blam

Nothing to do but laugh at this.

anyway,
BMW already sells incredible high end bicycles, they don't manufacture them though... https://shop.bmwgroup.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/EUR/BMWFrameSet-Start;?CategoryName=LIFE
They also sell a collapsible bike for urban use that is the damn lightest bike I've ever used.

http://www.montagueco.com/aboutuspartners.html is the manufacturer of BMW mountain bikes. Got their start from a DARPA grant to build a tactical bicycle for Marines.


17 posted on 01/11/2007 11:32:59 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: blam
He said yesterday that they were needed because of the failure of European car makers to keep to a voluntary agreement signed in 1998 to reduce emissions by 25 per cent by 2008.

Ah..."voluntary" means, well, voluntary. So why are car makers being punished? The Freeper who said something along the line of how this isn't so much about pollution, but more like a power grab by EU bureaucrats had it dead to right.

18 posted on 01/12/2007 2:22:47 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: yankeedame
The Left wants to force every one into Yugos regardless of whether they meet people's needs. They have zero tolerance for true diversity.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

19 posted on 01/12/2007 2:31:38 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Well sadly, its a policy our 'conservative' party endorse.


20 posted on 01/12/2007 3:52:03 PM PST by UKrepublican
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