Posted on 01/15/2007 9:50:37 AM PST by freespirited
True, true.
You’re just completely missing the point. They were FALSELY accused of committing a crime. A serious one. It didn’t matter whether Crystal was a stripper, an Avon lady, or delivering pizza. It would have been all the same. She made a false allegation. A university president & members of faculty made a rush to judgment in order to cater to a segment of the community. An overly ambitious DA took advantage of the situation to get elected. The fact that she is a stripper has nothing to do with it.
Those boys were in the wrong place, at the wrong time, with the wrong women. Poor choices, bad consequences...UGH
Wrong place wrong time happens to all of us at one time or another.
"Some of Nifong's harshest critics have also suggested that he face criminal charges, but Kennedy said that those charges 'should only be reserved for the most egregious types of misconduct. And it's too early to say whether this might be one of those cases.'"
Regrettably, there is no allowance in the law for hanging this SOB.
You’re just completely missing the point. They were FALSELY accused of committing a crime. A serious one. It didn’t matter whether Crystal was a stripper, an Avon lady, or delivering pizza. It would have been all the same. She made a false allegation. A university president & members of faculty made a rush to judgment in order to cater to a segment of the community. An overly ambitious DA took advantage of the situation to get elected. The fact that she is a stripper has nothing to do with it.
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You are correct.
CGM accused three other men years ago of raping her.
Guess what? She wasn't a stripper at the time and the guys were not at a "stripper party."
Lawyers have their "standards", the rest of the human race has ours.
I think Nifong is scum, but she made her accusations before it got to him. He didn't manipulate her into making any accusations. She did this on her own.
In fact, we might find that the accusations she made bear little resemblance to the charges Nifong came out with.
Which accusations are you talking about? She's given many stories, so you need to be specific here.
The guy is unethical, but also an idiot. No one questioned him initially due to political correctness, but he offended a lot of powerful people here by taking on Duke athletics and showed his misconduct in a very public case. You wonder how many poor people he has railroaded like this to get a conviction rate or for political or corrupt purposes.
I still think this is what's gonna happen.
DA, "I object Your Honor! The rape charges have been dropped. Any testimony or evidence regarding those charges are no longer pertinent to this trial."
Little early for such heavy drinking, isn't it? Then again maybe you guys on the planet Zeenon routinely drink your breakfasts..
This case sure has a way of bringing out the cockroaches.
His "career" should be over and he should be in jail.
Different actions have different ranges of possible natural consequences. Should a person who decides to juggle flaming torches in a sandpit, without any particular idea of how to catch them properly, complain if his hands or arms get burned? No--such injuries would be a natural and expected consequence of his actions. Should he complain if the BATF declared that a stick with a burning rag on the end was a "destructive device" and decided to shoot his dogs and burn down his house with a pyrotechnic tear gas grenade? I'd say he should. While it's true that juggling flaming torches isn't exactly prudent, that doesn't mean one shouldn't complain if the consequences go well beyond any reasonable causal relationship.
She accused non-existent people. It wasn't until she was pressured be Nifong et al. that she changed her allegations to point ot real people.
Justice.
God knows what Nifong said or did to her to manipulate her to make the accusations she did.
She made her accusations of rape before Nifong came into play.
She deliberately accused non-existend people of rape, for the purpose of avoiding being confined in detox. She had no intention of those accusations particularly hurting anyone (since it's impossible to hurt people who don't exist) nor any fear of anyone countering the accusations (since non-existent people can't fight back).
It was only Nifong et al. got involved that her accusations changed to point to real people. And given the transcripts of the photo ID session there's a pretty clear causal relationship.
If Nifong were still prosecutor and the case went to trial, I would expect something like that. Though I'm not sure whether the defense attorneys would get a chance to respond before the judge bellowed out "OVERRULED!"
The goal of rape-shield laws is to prevent a defense attorney from arguing that a woman who is 'easy' lacks the moral fiber to be a truthful witness, and to prevent a defense attorney from salting the wounds of a woman who (if the charges have any merit) has already been through Hell.
Had CGM told the truth from the start about having turned tricks shortly before going to the party, the prosecution might have been able to argue for the exclusion of those statements and the DNA supporting them. But CGM lied. While being a loose woman might not relate directly to CGM's credibility, lying about it certainly does.
Further, if Nifong introduced any testimony about CGM's "injuries", that would make relevant any alternate explanations for how she got them. I'm not sure what the rules would be if Nifong declined to introduce any discussion of "injuries" but the defense wanted to introduce it to show how trivial they were.
In any case, the rape-shield laws aren't going to protect CGM from embarassment, but that doesn't mean Nifong wouldn't have tried, were he still the prosecutor. I would hope, though, the case would be dropped before trial rendering the issue moot.
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