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To: justshutupandtakeit
Okay, now I understand. You just can't read or do math.

Welfare benefit programs used strictly by the illegal immigration population were costing "$400 billion a year -...

Based on the figure of 30 million illegals they use that would be $13,333 of expense per year per capita.

...He said that figure did not include another half-trillion dollars lost each year "due to payroll and income tax fraud from the underground economy created by having 30 million illegal aliens in the United States."

Here the figure would be $16,666 per capita in lost revenue.

Estimates of the number of illegal aliens in the U.S. vary considerably, but the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) said the numbers cited by Gilchrist "sound about right."

The figures for expense, missed opportunity cost and the population base are clearly in the text. You present a figure of $83,000 per year expense and your number is what I was supposed to swallow? I did not swallow their number, I pointed out that context mattered, which it clearly did because you tried to feed me a BS number without providing any alternative context. Exactly what I was pointing out

"Occasionally you will see an accident with Illegals but they are not that common."

I did not say that Illegals were not "associated" with traffic fatalities. Obviously they are involved in SOME.

If Hispanic males are involved in fatal accidents at 5 times the rate of caucasion males (NHTSA data indicates male Hispanics is the single highest demographic group). Fatal accidents involving Hispanic males must be the most common. Chicago does not release the residency status of those involved in the accidents, how do you know illegals are not involved?

184 posted on 01/29/2007 11:39:35 AM PST by CMAC51
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To: CMAC51

My math does not use BS figures such as 30 million Illegals when there are about 12-13 million. But exaggeration is a critical part of your schtick. Someone above cited Vincente Fox as saying 10% of his nation was north of the border. THAT figure is consistent with Non-Whackjob estimates of 12 million. Naturally YOU would reject that.

The "lost revenue" figure is particularly hilarious. At the lowest tax rate this would mean the earnings of Illegals is almost $60,000 PER CAPITA. Only an absolute fool would believe that when it is HIGHER than the Median Household Income much less per capita. But facts and logic mean nothing to you.

Illegals in Chicago do not own automobiles at anywhere near the rate of citizens hence are not as likely to be involved in accidents. Your 5x figure is likely something you did not read correctly or interpret correctly like most of the things I have said that you incorrectly understood.

Residency status of an Illegal is whatever city he is living in. Or is that another misunderstanding of yours that a resident is a citizen?


186 posted on 01/29/2007 12:19:00 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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