http://www.kennedyvmachine.com/?p=2796
The man described here doesn't sound like a liberal too me and completely refutes you argument on Rudy about immigration and being a big government Republican. As far as abortion goes, like I said in Post 16 we can't stop it. As far a gay rights go, Rudy is against gay marriage. All other gay issues, who cares. Gays don't affect your life or mine. Lets worry about things that affect our life, like the WOT, taxes, ect.
My post was on the mark. Read it. Rudy has a lifelong record in politics and that record is clearly one of a liberal, not a conservative. Rudy employs rhetorical obfuscation to give the impression he is more of a moderate or even a centrist. As Rush says, the words moderate and centrist are just two other ways to say, liberal.
Pres Reagan and the current Pres Bush were/are both strong pro-lifers who employed Executive Orders and Presidencial edicts to stop abortions within their power as the POTUS. Rudy`s remarks through out his life have supported abortion on demand. No doubt about it.
“I am pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights,” Giuliani said in 1999, when he was contemplating a Senate campaign. When a reporter asked if he at least favored a ban on partial-birth abortion, Giuliani said, “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing.”
Here's what Terry Jeffrey, the editor of Human Events wrote about Rudy`s position on gay relationships:
"Giuliani’s pro-gay rights position is so extreme, he advocated stripping away the special legal status of traditional marriage. In 1998, he pushed a municipal ordinance that wiped out all distinctions between married and unmarried couples in New York City law, regardless of their gender. The late Cardinal John O’Connor gave a sermon from the pulpit of Saint Patrick Cathedral condemning Giuliani’s proposal. “It is imperative, in my judgment,” said the Cardinal, “that no law be passed contrary to natural moral law and Western tradition by virtually legislating that marriage does not matter.”
>>>>>Lets worry about things that affect our life, like the WOT, taxes, ect.
There is no evidence that Rudy has some special talent or skills for national defense or homeland security issues that would place him above most of the other GOP candidates.
Btw, when Rudy left office as Mayor of NYCity, he left behind a projected pre-9/11 deficit of $2.0 billion and a $42 billion debt, second largest only to the federal governments. In addition, Rudy added 15,000 teachers to the city`s employment rolls. That increased the membership of two of the largest liberal organizations in America today. The National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers.
I'm telling you, Rudy ain't no conservative!
Rudy supposedly made this comment while playing to the room at a candidate for Senate dinner in God forsaken Minnesota.
When Rudy sits down and tells some reporters from accredited news outlets that he believes in conservative constructionalist judges, then I'll start to believe.