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Mosque leader: 'People don't trust their children' (after Birmingham UK terror raid)
icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk ^ | 1/31/2007 | Staff

Posted on 01/31/2007 7:12:28 AM PST by Dark Skies

Today's dawn terror raids in Birmingham have heightened the anxieties and suspicions among the Muslim community, it was claimed today.

Shabir Hussain, chairman of the Ludlow Road Mosque, near to the house in Jackson Road, Alum Rock, which was targeted by police, said raids like today’s were causing unease among local families.

He said: "People don’t trust their own children any more. It’s causing difficulties inside families.

"You feel like you should challenge your son or daughter: ‘Where are you going at night? What are you watching on TV? What are you doing on the internet?’

"After this kind of thing, 100 per cent of families are worried."

Eight men were arrested on suspicion of the "commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism" under the Terrorism Act 2000.

In an updated statement today, West Midlands Police said 12 addresses had been sealed off in the Sparkhill, Washwood Heath, Kingstanding and Edgbaston areas of Birmingham. All are being searched.

The force said the searches may cause disruption and asked for the support of people living in the area.

"Contact officers have been appointed to all the families directly affected by these arrests," the force said. "Their role is to act as a facilitator for any concerns the families may have, including concerns in relation to any future repercussions.

"West Midlands Police enjoys excellent relations with its communities. We will listen to their concerns and do everything in our power to reassure them.

"It is only with the support of all communities that terrorism can be disrupted and defeated."

Outside an address in Ward End Park Road in the Washwood Heath area of Birmingham, police officers were standing guard.

The door to No 106 had been boarded up and a police van was parked outside. One neighbour, who lives a few doors away, said that a couple lived there with three children.

She said: "My daughters were leaving for school at about 8.30 this morning when they saw police everywhere.

"The family are a nice family. I believe their children are aged between 10 and 14. I am really shocked and it’s really scary because it’s on our doorstep."

In Sparkhill, officers swooped on an anonymous end-of-terrace house, an Islamic bookshop and a cybercafe.

Dozens of officers stood guard outside the three addresses today as forensic experts worked inside the properties in the inner-city district.

Standing opposite the Maktabah bookstore on Stratford Road, Councillor Tanveer Choudhry expressed shock that the premises was among those raided. Mr Choudhry (Lib Dem, Springfield), said the staff at the shop were always polite and courteous.

"If the allegations are what they are then I am very, very surprised to be honest," he added. "I have used that shop before and I have never seen anything untoward."

The metal shutters of the bookshop had been cut open by police while a neighbouring beauty shop was closed. Photographers worked inside the bookshop, where titles such as Heroes of Islam, Muslim Heroes of the World and A Day With The Prophet were on display alongside candles.

Passer-by Sohel Aslam had also visited the shop to buy story books for his five children. The 37-year-old, from Leicester, said: "There are a few places around which are quite extreme, but not this place.

"I used to get perfumes and stuff from there for my family and I am really shocked that this is going on."

Residents in Poplar Road, a side street just yards from the bookshop, were reluctant to talk about the occupants of the house which had been sealed off or whether they had seen the police operation.

The third swoop in Sparkhill occurred about 800 yards further south along Stratford Road, close to the junction with Showell Green Lane.

A door at the rear of Blade Cybercafe and Communications, which led up a flight of stairs to what appeared to be a flat and a storage area, had been forced open.

Police could also be seen examining the inside of the cybercafe, which also offers mobile phone services, including repairs.

# A surveillance operation by anti-terror officers has been ongoing for some time. MI5 has also been working closely with the police.

Two weeks ago, a baking powder spillage from a fire extinguisher caused an anthrax scare in a betting shop on Stratford Road. Police were called and customers and staff were decontaminated, but tests proved it to be a false alarm.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: birmingham; birminghamcell; birminghamplot; islam; uk
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1 posted on 01/31/2007 7:12:30 AM PST by Dark Skies
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"You feel like you should challenge your son or daughter: ‘Where are you going at night? What are you watching on TV? What are you doing on the internet?"

Hey DUMMY! It's called "Parental Responsibility"!!!

2 posted on 01/31/2007 7:14:49 AM PST by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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>>>>He said: "People don’t trust their own children any more. It’s causing difficulties inside families.

"You feel like you should challenge your son or daughter: ‘Where are you going at night? What are you watching on TV? What are you doing on the internet?’

"After this kind of thing, 100 per cent of families are worried."<<<<


Wouldn't that describe almost any parent's feeling about raising teenagers in the modern world?
3 posted on 01/31/2007 7:15:24 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Free enterprise will pave the road to the stars!)
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Wouldn't that describe almost any parent's feeling about raising teenagers in the modern world?

Except most kids are planning a beheading (I hope).

4 posted on 01/31/2007 7:17:23 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: Dark Skies

Heavy metal poisoning?


5 posted on 01/31/2007 7:20:48 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Free enterprise will pave the road to the stars!)
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He said: "People don’t trust their own children any more. It’s causing difficulties inside families.

Your children are causing difficulties for ALL the families in your host country. You are an imam, and they are getting their radical genocidist ideas from your religious teachings.

Don't be so quick to blame the kids, in this case, you're the ones that raised them to be sociopaths.

6 posted on 01/31/2007 7:21:53 AM PST by Kenton (All vices in moderation. I don't want to overdo any but I don't want to skip any either.)
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"You feel like you should challenge your son or daughter: ‘Where are you going at night? What are you watching on TV? What are you doing on the internet?’

This is a problem? I asked my son these very questions pretty much every day of his life between age 12 and 18.
7 posted on 01/31/2007 7:27:52 AM PST by Trampled by Lambs (Yeah, whatever...)
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To: Dark Skies

And well they should be asking those questions!


8 posted on 01/31/2007 7:32:03 AM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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Oh yeah, they are all shocked and stunned. Do these people ever say anything different? A very nice family. An innocent-looking bookstore. And, of course, the obligatory apologies and groveling from the police force spokesperson.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,236337,00.html

This guy appeared in federal court yesterday. It was all a mistake. He wants to go back to India and be free to return to the U.S. at a later date. The sheer nerve and ability to lie with a straight face is breathtaking.

The Hanoi Jane crowd in D.C. wants peace with these people.
These people want to destroy our country and kill us all.
March 17th is the next peace rally. Let us all be there to stand up and fight back.
9 posted on 01/31/2007 7:38:33 AM PST by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Dark Skies
People Terrorists don’t trust their own children any more.

There. Fixed it.

10 posted on 01/31/2007 7:41:07 AM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Kenton

"Your children are causing difficulties for ALL the families in your host country. You are an imam, and they are getting their radical genocidist ideas from your religious teachings.

Don't be so quick to blame the kids, in this case, you're the ones that raised them to be sociopaths."

What the imam means is: we have to challenge our children: where are you going at night? What are you doing on the internet? Are you tipping the police off about your elders do at mosque? How are the authorities finding out about the bookshop?


11 posted on 01/31/2007 7:42:54 AM PST by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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To: Dark Skies
Just in case anyone thinks that 40 FReepers can do it alone.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1776385/posts

You are not too busy, too broke, or too removed to find a way to D.C. and stand up next to these great people who took so much abuse on behalf of all those here who talk a good ballgame, but but but. NO EXCUSES.
12 posted on 01/31/2007 7:43:21 AM PST by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: .cnI redruM
Wouldn't that describe almost any parent's feeling about raising teenagers in the modern world?

You're forgetting, Islam is de facto perfect, so they are genuinely surprised their kids are training to be murdering thugs. But, at least they are right in one area: 100% of everyone else's families are worried about what their Muslim children are doing as well.

13 posted on 01/31/2007 7:45:30 AM PST by 50sDad (I respect other religions by allowing them the right to worship. But they still are wrong.)
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14 posted on 01/31/2007 7:50:38 AM PST by Gritty (Victory in the war on terrorism must be won in the domain of morals and culture-Serge Trifkovic)
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To: Dark Skies
"You feel like you should challenge your son or daughter: ‘Where are you going at night? What are you watching on TV? What are you doing on the internet?’

Geez.... sounds like normal around here!

15 posted on 01/31/2007 8:05:47 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Gritty

PING for later GREAT cartoon theft!


16 posted on 01/31/2007 8:32:33 AM PST by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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When I first read the quote, I thought maybe he means that parents planning terrorist attacks are worried their kids might turn them it!

I'm still not sure that's an incorrect interpretation!


17 posted on 01/31/2007 8:35:04 AM PST by zook (America going insane - "Do you read Sutter Caine?)
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To: Dark Skies

Oh that makes me feel real sad, that Muslims are experiencing the negative effects of their own terrorism.


18 posted on 01/31/2007 8:43:26 AM PST by trailboss800
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To: ishabibble

Oh yeah, they are all shocked and stunned.


Reminds me of what you always herar when the ploice arreast some one for mass murder. "gee he was always so quiet, and polite. I would never guess that he'd do something like this."


19 posted on 01/31/2007 9:11:19 AM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: ExSES

You beat me to it. Dead on.


20 posted on 01/31/2007 9:11:46 AM PST by twonie (Just because there are fewer of us don't mean we are wrong.)
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