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Dakota Voice ^ | 1/29/2007 | Carrie K. Hutchens

[T'wit]

Thanks, BB. How depressing just to read the headline...

[8mmMauser]

This is a gotta see...

Wagglebee started a thread on what I call resident trolls and freeper sleepers, and got it going hot and heavy. Naturally some just can't resist peeling back their masks to spout. But the more clever ones bit their tongues, LOL.

We all know that there are liberals here and I'm pretty certain that they aren't going anywhere. As a conservative, I know that conservativism consists of a belief in a strong national defense, fiscal conservativism and social conservativism, so to call these FReepers conservatives in name only (CINOs) would be incorrect because many of these FReepers don't even claim to be social conservatives. So, my question is this: WHAT SHOULD WE CALL FREE REPUBLIC LIBERALS?

What Should We Call Free Republic Liberals

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[T'wit]

>> The anniversary of that fateful day approaches in a month.

The anniversary of Terri's unexplained injuries was yesterday. Exactly seventeen years her young life was taken from her, almost surely by her cheating husband. I meant to mark the day, but this miserable snowstorm forced me to change some plans. All I lost was my plans for the day, but Terri's whole future, and eventually even her life, were stolen on February 25, 1990.

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This thread by ventanax5 exposes the cynical thoughts and core evil behind the marketing of mass murder. Thanks, narses.

"I remember laughing when we made those slogans up," recalls Bernard Nathanson, M.D., co-founder of pro-abortion vanguard group NARAL, reminiscing about the early days of the abortion-rights movement in the late '60s and early '70s. "We were looking for some sexy, catchy slogans to capture public opinion. They were very cynical slogans then, just as all of these slogans today are very, very cynical.

How lying marketers sold Roe v. Wade to America

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[T'wit]

>> ...with medical experts and church leaders saying it is outdated.

OUTDATED?? In the old days, it used to be OK to kill the babies but in our modern times you should kill them a little younger?

[8mmMauser]

From their perspective they might see it as a reprieve for the ones sneaking through a time limit.

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May the tides finally shift...

Thread by markomalley. Thanks, narses.

An anti-abortion group, once investigated for unauthorized medical practices, today is launching a new front in the battle: free sonograms in front of South Bronx abortion clinics.

Women coming to the clinics will be met by sidewalk activists from EMC Frontline Pregnancy Centers, who will invite them into a 32-foot, ultrasound-equipped van for a hot drink and the not-so-subtle suggestion they change their minds.

It's abortion activism on wheels in Bx.

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[T'wit]

I just call them visitors and ask them my one-question quiz, namely, to offer a factual explanation of how Terri Schiavo went from sound asleep to severely injured and permanently disabled right after her cheating husband came home late one Saturday night.

So far their success rate answering this question is zero. Only two have attempted to answer it. One was totally off subject, the other flubbed a simple fact at the beginning and got no further. So neither of them got off the ground and nobody else has tried.

See, they all come in with the conviction that they know the facts of the case, and that "Terribots" are religious nuts. The first thing they learn, if they have IQs over 80, is that they don't know any facts after all. If they have 100 IQs, they may even deduce that they have been pitching BS.

If they have an IQ of 101, lively curiosity and any sense of right and wrong, you'd think they'd want to learn the truth about Terri Schiavo and seek justice for her.

No takers for that yet.

[T'wit]

In that case I would like to set the limit at one minute past conception. Heck, I'd go fifteen minutes past conception. The lady will have to scurry to the abortion "clinic" to murder her baby, but if she is determined, she has the choice I suppose this will start a new fad of fooling around in abortuary lobbies in order to save 14 minutes, but so be it.

[8mmMauser]

You are more civil than I. The visitors of late are amenable to your approach, and are capable of thinking and reason, setting them a category apart from the ones who triggered my own alerts in times mercifully past.

On the other hand, the ones I think of are of a more sinister cut, ones landing on threads with a solid inflexible agenda, set to throw their words only as weapons, and are blinded to any forms of logic. They arrived here to attack and destroy, only, and to wash right over any reasoned responses in return. In those cases, they came as envoys from a darker source, inflexible in their quests. Bat down one of these critters and another pops up. Like homicide bombers and kamikaze, the puppeteers finally exhaust their supply of clowns.

Perhaps we can recognize the bone yard, to which these many have gone. Happily as they exposed themselves, our Management has put them where they belong.

[T'wit]

>> You are more civil than I.

Maybe you aren't reading my mind :-) :-)

Anyway, I appreciate the compliment and return it. You are a gentleman. The whole idea of forum, I trust, is people being able to exchange views amicably, or at least without flaming. All discussions should be at the level of ideas, not personalities; the sin, not the sinner. The poster who strays into personal comments has -- knowingly or not -- admitted that he has no argument. He has given up and can contribute nothing to grown-up discussion. Needless to say, this happens here with monotonous regularity. But one has to expect it, our visitors have had their heads filled with mush by the media.

[T'wit]

Earlier this week I wrote a little verse about just these sorts of situations, copyright T'wit 2007:

Ladies, before you get your sonogram,
Add his initials to your monogram.

[T'wit]

In fact that's worth a tagline :-)

[BykrBayb]

We all learned some lessons from the murder of Terri Schiavo. Johnny Luther Rogers learned the wrong lesson. Sure, it would have been quicker and easier for Michael to get the go-ahead to murder Terri, if only he'd gotten her to fill out a death wish ahead of time. But there's more to committing a successful murder than that.

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Guns, drugs found at slay site ~ http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200770226068

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Investigators found a magazine containing one bullet in Rogers’ pocket.

They found blood on his watch and took swabs of blood from his hands and inside his right ear.

Inside his home, they found blood on the bedroom floor and one empty shell casing from a .22-caliber 250 hunting rifle.

They found another spent shell casing inside the gun. They found a box of bullets for the rifle.

On the kitchen table, investigators found a blue folder containing a “do not resuscitate” order for Kathy Rogers. The order means she did not want to be placed on life support.

~snip~

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How convenient.

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Sort of makes Living Will into an oxymoron. Death Wish sounds more descriptive.

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Media Matters goes bonkers over Michelle Malkin and maniac right wing blogs and sites, oddly omitting FreeRepublic. Sounds like the Washington Post is even too right wing for comfort.

Here is the part pertaining to Terri.

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The Post decided that glaring flip-flop was irrelevant to profiling Malkin's work.

Then again, Malkin's arguably more famous for the things she gets wrong, as opposed to what she gets right. As the Post politely put it, "Malkin's campaigns have had mixed results." Which is sort of like saying the Titanic failed to reach its destination. Here's a brief list of Malkin's recent lowlights:

• During the 2004 campaign, Malkin appeared on MSNBC's Hardball and insisted that the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth were alleging that John Kerry shot himself on purpose while serving in Vietnam. Her slanderous appearance caused a media stir, since the Swifties had never made that accusation against Kerry. The following day, while blogging and appearing on C-SPAN, Malkin lied repeatedly about her Hardball showdown.
• In early 2005, during the Terri Schiavo right-to-die controversy, Malkin embraced a dubious conspiracy theory and ridiculed The Washington Post for weeks. Malkin, who posted about the topic incessantly, was certain Post reporters had fabricated a key report about the infamous Schiavo "talking points memo" written and distributed by the GOP. In her April 1 post belittling the "Schiavo talking points memo mess," Malkin continued her attack on The Washington Post and demanded the daily start publishing a laundry list of retractions for its fraudulent coverage of the Schiavo memo. (Incredibly, Kurtz gave the bloggers a platform inside the paper to air their baseless allegations against the Post.) Malkin's claims were proven to be untrue when an aide to a Republican senator confessed to writing the Schiavo memo.

The Washington Post's crush on right-wing bloggers

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This is the third reference to Carrie Hutchens in our thread for this month. She writes extensively and passionately on Terri.

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Broken record as I may sometimes seem, the Terri Schiavo case is not something to put on the shelf of "oh wells" and then simply get on with life.

Get on with life? At least I have a life. If only Terri did as well. Why doesn't she? It's something we should ask every chance we get. Something we should ask, until the majority is asking it as well. Something we should ask, until the lawmakers are asking it. Something we should ask until the courts, as well as the people, are demanding the answer as to why an innocent woman was put to death at all, but especially by such a horrendous method. A method that no one would allow to be used on a convicted murderer. (That would be cruel and unusual punishment.) A method not even allowed on animals. But it was allowed (forced) on Terri Schiavo? What does that say about the judge (Judge George Greer) that ordered the death sentence on an innocent and the courts that allowed it thereafter by not allowing a true review of the case? (A review that convicted murderers receive prior to execution.)

There are people in the public that are seeking NOT, "Death with Dignity", but rather, "Death by Obligation".

There are people in the public that do truly think they are fighting for "Death with Dignity", but are imposing their values upon other people's lives. They wouldn't want to live a certain way, so they are sure no one else would.

("Quality of Life" issues that only we can determine for ourselves, should never be made by others -- especially those who don't even know us.)

There are also people who do believe in "Death with Dignity", who are trying to only let people have a chance to go rather than be forced to stay alive by machines, rather than God's will. People who might have fought to keep Terri alive had they been aware of the "facts" as they were, rather than what was presented as being "facts" that weren't. (Half-truths aren't facts either.) Might have been good if all the facts had been allowed into the record, rather than some not allowed due to the bias and/or opinion of the judge and quirks of the law. Yes, "all the FACTS" might have actually changed the opinion that we heard during Terri's hideous execution, death and since then.

Truth often has a way of changing how we feel!

Amazing how that works!

Broken record? I'm proud to be. What happened wrongly to Terri cannot be said too often. We can't let her, or what happened to her, be forgotten, lest it become the norm in this world we live in. A world that has gone mad and is threatening to only get worse.

Without memories of what once was, we have no gauge on where we are headed!

 

Memories to Gauge Where We Are Headed

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The topic appears on two separate threads, one a Wesley J. Smith article posted by madprof98, thanks, The Sarce, and the other one summarizing the article by Hilary White and posted by wagglebee. Here they are both:

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“Choice” my foot: If the new bill to legalize assisted suicide in California (A.B. 374) becomes law, Catholic nursing homes will be legally required to permit assisted suicide to be committed within their premises, even though doing so would be a profound violation of Catholic moral teaching. In-patient hospice facilities would be similarly coerced, despite assisted suicide being a direct affront to the hospice philosophy and the medical standards under which programs operate. Other California medical facilities and group homes could also be forced to comply. Only acute-care hospitals escape the proposed tyrannical duty to cooperate in ending patients’ lives.

Catholic Nursing Homes to Be Forced to Permit Assisted Suicide

SACRAMENTO, February 26, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Well known bioethics author, Wesley J. Smith, warns in an article posted to the weblog of First Things magazine, that a pending bill in California could threaten the lives of vulnerable elderly and ill patients in nursing homes and hospice care.

Assembly Bill 374, says Smith, under the rubric of “choice” will force in-patient hospice facilities and even Catholic nursing homes to permit assisted suicide. The proposed legislation, he writes, exempts only acute-care hospitals.

California Catholic Nursing Homes may be Forced to Allow Assisted Suicide

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Thread from wagglebee on things happening in Idaho.

BOISE, Idaho - A bill that would require unmarried girls under 18 in Idaho to get consent from their parents before getting an abortion has moved a step closer to becoming law.

The Senate voted 23-12 Monday for the measure that would require most girls to get written permission from one parent before the procedure could be performed. Girls who don't want to tell their parents can petition a judge to allow an abortion in cases of incest or abuse, a medical emergency or if the judge decides the girl is mature enough to decide on her own.

ID Senate clears parental consent abortion law (Idaho)

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[T'wit]

>> The [DNR] order means she did not want to be placed on life support.

Oh, really? Maybe it was somebody else who didn't want her revived? That's often so with "do not resuscitate" orders (as opposed to advanced directives / living wills). I'm not sure this reporter knows the difference.