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Pentagon Rejects Speaker Pelosi's Request for Military Aircraft
ABC News ^ | Feb. 7, 2007 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 02/07/2007 5:42:02 PM PST by Hadean

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To: ohioWfan

Exactly OhioWfan.


161 posted on 02/07/2007 8:15:01 PM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Hadean

What I don't understand is these elected offical, Dems & Repub., are sent, via the voting public, to Washington to perform tasks that are for the good of the USA.

It just seems that once they get there, the voters and the USA are a secondary concern. The first is to be treated as little GODS, they expect the best of everything with little regard for accountability.

When they feel the least bit slighted, they will decide amongst themselves how to get whatever they want, even enacting a law that applies only to them.

Maybe some day, I would expect long after I'm gone, the voters will wake up and stop electing whoever is running under a certain party name.

Maybe some day, I would expect long after I'm gone, there will be term limits so that nobody will have a lifetime to figure out how to cheat and steal for 30 years.

Oh well I can dream can't I.


162 posted on 02/07/2007 8:16:56 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: Hadean

Let her fly military standby, just like the troops trying to get home.


163 posted on 02/07/2007 8:23:17 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: tgslTakoma
that the dispute was not coming from the president - that he's been a good boy

Oh yes, I was willing to take No-Doze to make sure I watched that little side show. When she said it's not coming from the president I almost tossed my lunch from last week. "DoD=bad. But the president likes me so how come all you little right wing whack jobs can't like me and support what I want."

Really great to see your name in my ping list. Hope you have been well!

164 posted on 02/07/2007 8:33:27 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: patton

I think we should give her a fleet of hang-gliders for her and her entourage.


165 posted on 02/07/2007 8:33:44 PM PST by Merlinator (To those who vote Democrat.......Osama thanks you very much!)
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To: Hadean
Oh there's gonna be hell to pay.

Hell has no fury like a woman scorned


William Congreve, The mourning bride, 1697
166 posted on 02/07/2007 8:35:56 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Hadean

Since when is she worried about security? Let her negotiate on the tarmac with those who might do her harm. Oh that's right. This is different. This is HER security.


167 posted on 02/07/2007 8:37:54 PM PST by plain talk
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To: All
GREAT FOR THE PENTAGON... SCR** HER. :)

Here take this one.


168 posted on 02/07/2007 8:39:47 PM PST by ElPatriota (Duncan Hunter 08 &Let's not forget, we are all still friends - basically :) despite our differences)
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To: stockstrader
"...Isn't a C-20 a Gulfstream III? If it is, it most certainly CAN fly coast to coast--especially with long runways like Andrews AFB and San Fran Intl!!! The statement that a GIII cannot fly coast to coast is ridiculous..."

Yup! Range is 4200 miles. Good catch ............. FRegards

169 posted on 02/07/2007 8:44:01 PM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: Hadean

I disagree with the populace....as long as she holds the position, she deserves a direct flight across the country...


170 posted on 02/07/2007 8:45:02 PM PST by zendari
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To: Diddle E. Squat


Didn't she refer to war in Iraq as a 'situation'?


171 posted on 02/07/2007 8:46:39 PM PST by AprilfromTexas
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To: wittyone

From Wikipedia:

Constitutional concerns
Several constitutional law experts have raised questions as to the constitutionality of the provisions that the Speaker of the House and the President pro tempore of the Senate succeed to the Presidency.[1] James Madison, one of the authors of the Constitution, raised similar constitutional questions about the Presidential Succession Act of 1792 in a 1792 letter to Edmund Pendleton.[2] Two of these issues can be summarized:

The term "Officer" in the relevant clause of the Constitution is most plausibly interpreted to mean an "Officer of the United States", who must be a member of the Executive or Judicial Branch. The Speaker and the President pro tempore are not officers in this sense.
Under the principle of separation of powers, the Constitution specifically disallows legislative officials from also serving in the executive branch. For the Speaker or the President pro tempore to become President, they must resign their position, at which point they are no longer in the line of succession. This forms a constitutional paradox to some.
In 2003, the Continuity of Government Commission, a private nonpartisan think tank, suggested that the current law has "at least seven significant issues … that warrant attention," including:[3]

The reality that all figures in the current line of succession work and reside in the vicinity of Washington, D.C. In the event of a nuclear, chemical, or biological attack, it is possible, perhaps even likely, that everyone on the list would be killed or incapacitated.
Doubt (such as those expressed above by James Madison) that Congressional leaders are eligible to act as President.
A concern about the wisdom of including the President pro tempore in the line of succession as the "largely honorific post traditionally held by the longest-serving Senator of the majority party." For example, from January 20, 2001 to June 6, 2001, the President pro tempore was 98-year-old Strom Thurmond of South Carolina.
A concern that the current line of succession can force the presidency to abruptly switch parties mid-term, as the Speaker and the President Pro Tempore are not necessarily of the same party as the President.
A concern that the succession line is ordered by the dates of creation of the various executive departments, without regard to the skills or capacities of the persons serving as their Secretary.
The fact that, should a cabinet member begin to act as President, the law allows the House to elect a new Speaker (or the Senate, a new President pro tempore), who could in effect remove the cabinet member and assume the office him- or herself at any time.
The absence of a provision where a President is disabled and the Vice Presidency is vacant (for example, if an assassination attempt simultaneously wounded the President and killed the Vice President).


172 posted on 02/07/2007 8:50:07 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

After the way Nancy and her pals are treating our troops maybe she ISN`T safe when she lands at a military base?


173 posted on 02/07/2007 8:58:09 PM PST by neverhillorat (IF THE RATS WIN, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

After the way Nancy and her pals are treating our troops maybe she ISN`T safe when she lands at a military base?


174 posted on 02/07/2007 8:58:12 PM PST by neverhillorat (IF THE RATS WIN, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: G Larry
"Ahh....couldn't we at least offer her the use of a V-22 Osprey?"

LOL!

If it is already a flying piece of sh1t, then what does it become when Nancy and friends pile on board?

When it inevitably crashes will we find the wreckage before the neighborhood cats bury it?

If a V-22 Osprey with Nancy on board self-destructs is it called a mechanical failure or a mechanical success?

If Nancy got the plane she really wanted it would have so much LEFT WING that it could only fly around in circles.

Why would she want to fly anyhow? I thought the climate change experts in the Democrat party had already determined that "the sky is falling!"
175 posted on 02/07/2007 8:58:58 PM PST by ME-262 (Nancy Pelosi is known to the state of CA to render Viagra ineffective causing reproductive harm.)
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To: taxesareforever
MSM touting an untruth. That is not spelled out in the Constitution. If it comes down to who follows the VP the decision will be made by SCOTUS.

They didn't say it was in the Constitution, although the Constitution does give Congress the power to determine the order, which they did, in several instances, the latest being the Presidential Succession Act of 1947 codified as (3 U.S.C. § 19)

So unless someone challenged the existing law, the SCOTUS would not be a factor. In the circumstances, the death of both the President and Vice President at the same time, or of the President who had succeeded from VP when the former President died in office and before a new VP could be selected, it's highly unlikely that there will be time or inclination to run to the Court. The authority for Congress to enact such a law is Article II, section 1, clause 6 of the United States Constitution.

176 posted on 02/07/2007 8:59:01 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Hadean

Nancy, what are you talking about? Don't you realize how much poisonous fuel the C-20 will spew over the ozone layer while you make your trips to Iran, France, Syria and North Korea? I'm sure all the "scientists" your good buddy Albert always uses would be appalled at your hypocrisy. My God, woman haven't you heard about Global Warming. Think of all your grandchildren you are protecting.


177 posted on 02/07/2007 9:01:02 PM PST by RacerX1128
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To: stockstrader
Isn't a C-20 a Gulfstream III?

A C-20B is a G-III, but a C-20H, is a G-IV. From the Air Force Fact sheet

The C-20A/B, military versions of the Gulfstream III, was chosen in June 1983 as the replacement aircraft for the C-140B Jetstar. Three A models were delivered to the 89th Airlift Wing under a cost-saving accelerated purchase plan. Upon delivery of the C-20B's, Andrews transferred the three C-20A's to Ramstein Air Base and all C-140B's at both locations were phased out of the U.S. Air Force inventory. In 1992, Gulfstream delivered their latest model, the C-20H (Gulfstream IV) to Andrews AFB. In 2002, the C-20A was selected for decommissioning and two C-20Hs at Andrews were transferred to Ramstein.

So it the -Hs are at Ramstein, then the ones at Andrews must be -Bs, since the fact sheet also shows only two -H models in USAF service, and 5 -B models.

178 posted on 02/07/2007 9:05:20 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: RacerX1128
The terrorists would think losing her would be tantamount to loosing Zarquawi or Bin Laden. They'll put out an all point bulletin to stay away from her plane, save nothing.

She doesn't fight in the trenches, but behind the scenes, she undermines those trying to do the fighting p>

179 posted on 02/07/2007 9:08:50 PM PST by Bassfan (No cheese please)
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To: Hadean

Weren't these the idiots that lambasted the President for not flying directly to Washington on 9/11?

And now she's worried about stopping for gas?

Oh brother.


180 posted on 02/07/2007 9:10:41 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Celebrate Monocacy!)
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