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Game Console wars: Pressure on Sony PS3 Mounts (which would you pick?)
I4U.com ^ | Posted on Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:00:00 CST | None given

Posted on 02/10/2007 3:27:46 PM PST by Caipirabob

Since the dust has settled after the Sony PS3 launch last November I started to feel that the Sony PS3 did not deliver on Sony's promises. For me the only good points right now are the Blu-ray drive and that the games look neat in HD, but game play is not that much different from playing PS2 games.

The pressure on Sony is mounting to deliver games that are leveraging the magic powers of the CELL CPU. Several negative Sony PS3 reports appeared over the last couple of days that put their finger in different PS3 wounds. See examples of negative Sony PS3 headlines below.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: games; ps3; wii; xbox360
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To: Caipirabob
If you are gaming on-line with friends, I don't understand the dilemma. It should be about the games. The XBox has an HD DVD addon, so I don't see the PS3 having BlueRay being a big advantage.
21 posted on 02/10/2007 4:19:55 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Caipirabob
My 12 year old son wanted a Wii in the worst way for Christmas. I knew there wasn't a chance we'd find one and I would NEVER pay more than retail on Ebay for one so he got $$ for it instead.

We were lucky enough to happen upon one in Target just 2 days after Christmas. I'm a mom, I don't do games but WOW this thing is a blast. We are all having so much fun with it, we can actually play things as a family.

It's just so innovative as far as video games go. They actually work up a sweat playing some of the games and we laugh and they are so interactive that it is well worth the $$ IMO. I see PS3's all the time in our stores now just sitting there unsold, I'm guessing that after the initial hype most figured they just weren't worth the hefty price tag.

22 posted on 02/10/2007 4:22:34 PM PST by mykdsmom (Some people are like Slinkies..useless, yet still make you smile as you push them down the stairs)
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To: Carl LaFong
How does the Atari 2600 look in HD ?

Aw, excellent. You get like 300 pixels per pixel.

23 posted on 02/10/2007 4:25:05 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Caipirabob

If you go with Sony you are committed to building a BluRay video library which some consider a next generation Betamax, plus the player is integral to the PS3. The 360 however uses an external HD DVD drive format, if the drive has a problem you need not replace an expensive game console.
There is on the horizon dual capable HD players but honestly I would go with the HD DVD format. And just a bit of side info the porn industry has scorned the Bluray in favor of the HD DVD format, and that is a lot of influence believe it or not.
I agree that the better games like Halo, Gears of War and others are presently made for the 360. Sony has gotten a lame horse with the PS3 unless they can produce a lot of true next generation games.


24 posted on 02/10/2007 4:26:48 PM PST by Eye of Unk
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If the PS3 falls behind its going to help kill Blu Ray IMO. HD-DVD will already have the advantage of being backward compatable with all the old DVDs (unless that has changed), and its the name....everyone has DVD ingrained in their brains now. Its only natural..especially since HD and DVD will appear on the disc while blu ray sounds like some freaky Japanese anime. Don't laugh, most of the country aren't tech junkies and have no clue. I am still amazed at the numbers of people who have glazed eyes when you explain what wireless internet is.


25 posted on 02/10/2007 4:29:38 PM PST by Crimson Elephant
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To: Caipirabob

I went out and bought a P/S2 cause they were cheap and I was interested in a couple of games they had which weren't on a PC format.None of the consoles can compare to Pc games,which can be patched and modified.You can even convert them using the same engine and now they have it where you can download the whole game without having to go to the store which I think is great.I downloaded F.E.A.R a couple of weeks ago and want to get the mission pack,which is another thing that's rare with a console.


26 posted on 02/10/2007 4:36:16 PM PST by Uncle Meat
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To: rollo tomasi

Once programmers figure out their way around the PS3 better graphics will come out.

I should hope so.
By-the-way, I totally zone out when my son starts saying, for example:
"Hey, Mom I got to the 5th level and beat the boss because I bought Xariean's lariot"...my reply "That's good baby".... my thought "what the hell is he talking about"


27 posted on 02/10/2007 4:38:38 PM PST by brwnsuga
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To: Caipirabob

The PS3 has a built in blu-ray player and Wi-Fi. The 360 has HD-DVD and wireless add-ons, but they bring the cost of the 360 up to the PS3. I bought the PS3 for the blu-ray since stand alone players were over $1000. I've only played one game on the PS3, and I've never played a 360 game, so I can't comment on game quality. I'm sure the 360 has far more good games out now, but I'm sure the PS3 will catch up in time.


28 posted on 02/10/2007 4:40:08 PM PST by TUAN_JIM (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Bogey78O
Look at the RAM architecture between the two, a bottleneck for the PS3 (Lack of shared RAM between GPU and processor, 250 MB each. While 360 has 512 MB of unified RAM and 10MB of EDRAM to serve as a buffer).

Also the Xenos GPU on the 360 is better than the RSX GPU on the PS3.

PS3 does have a better processor and storage space with the blue-ray though, both are great systems with plus and minuses.
29 posted on 02/10/2007 4:40:09 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: visualops
"I am an absolute non-gamer, but down the road I could see getting a Wii for the physical involvement. IMHO that is the future."

I'm a PC gamer only but my son got a Wii and he's been having a blast with it. Along with every one of his HS buddies. Interesting to see if it will be a passing fad or turn into the future of gaming.

30 posted on 02/10/2007 4:45:50 PM PST by joebuck
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To: Caipirabob

We just got a Wii and it is fun!!!!! My kids really like the Wii, but it is a great family game. It's also not as expensive as the the PS3.

Here's a funny link to a video about the PS3 vs the Wii:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9136575504838642038&q=ps3+vs+wii&hl=en


31 posted on 02/10/2007 4:47:13 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: Eye of Unk

FWIW... Blu-ray has pulled even with HD DVD and is outpacing it in terms of sales. Also the porn thing turned out to be much ado about nothing as there is porn available in Blu-ray.


32 posted on 02/10/2007 4:49:18 PM PST by Bogey78O (Nifong's final appeal before St. Peter should get tossed.)
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To: brwnsuga

My 12 year old son and 10 year old daughters love the Wii.

We've had it for a few weeks, and they are having fun with it. My son loves Zelda, one daughter likes Raymand Rabbid Rabbits (?), and my other daughter likes Wii sports. Hubby and I are liking the Wii sports.


33 posted on 02/10/2007 4:50:10 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: Crimson Elephant

Eh? Blu-ray players play DVD's too. People confuse the HD DVD/DVD combo discs for as being representative of all discs. Blu-ray could conceivably make BD/DVD discs but the cost of manufacture wouldn't be worth it.


34 posted on 02/10/2007 4:51:07 PM PST by Bogey78O (Nifong's final appeal before St. Peter should get tossed.)
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To: rollo tomasi

I heard it was all subjective to the way the title was developed but I'm not intimitely familiar with the differences in their GPUs so my take on it ain't worth much.


35 posted on 02/10/2007 4:52:53 PM PST by Bogey78O (Nifong's final appeal before St. Peter should get tossed.)
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To: Caipirabob

When the dual-core and quad-core processors start hitting the market, none of these consoles will survive. There are photo-real games coming out for the DC/QC platforms that no console can touch.


36 posted on 02/10/2007 4:57:05 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: Caipirabob
The PS3 has Resistance: Fall of Man, easily the best console FPS since Halo (and in many ways better). It takes Gears of War, which I found to be quite overrated, and blows it completely out of the water.

Even so, I could not recommend getting a PS3 over a 360 or Wii right now, because, well, the PS3 doesn't have too many (other) good titles yet and it is so expensive. Really, you are just investing in a console that will not really hit its full potential for another couple of years. If you want the most out of your money right now, get a Xbox 360.

Wii is fun for a while but the novelty is going to wear off soon, unless you have either kids or women who are going to play it. I tell you. The Wii is absolutely perfect getting girls to play video games, if you for some reason wanted to do that. A video game system where flailing your arms and frantically moving the controller around is actually a part of the game? Brilliant! ;D
37 posted on 02/10/2007 5:09:54 PM PST by Zeon Cowboy ("Show me just what Muhammad brought... and there you will find things only evil and inhuman.")
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To: Caipirabob

You want the wii. Loads of fun. We have about 7 games for it and wii sports has everyone crazy especially tennis and bowling. We've played Madden football and it is a real charge to actually throw passes using the remote. I would suspect all the sports titles that will be made to take advantage of the wii motion controller are going to be fun, Can't wait for Major League Baseball and NHL Hockey.


38 posted on 02/10/2007 5:16:21 PM PST by Xth Legion (Peace is a great alternative, after you've won!)
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To: IronJack
When the dual-core and quad-core processors start hitting the market, none of these consoles will survive. There are photo-real games coming out for the DC/QC platforms that no console can touch.

No, there will just be another generation of consoles that cost less than a good video card for the PC platforms and they'll both keep chugging.

39 posted on 02/10/2007 5:20:56 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Caipirabob

Right choice: Xbox 360 graphically is similar (some would say SUPERIOR in may ways to PS3), PS3 is WAy Expensive $$$$, (I think HD DVD will win the format wars), and I don't like Sony (arrogant, bad culture, inferior tech/quality) IMO. Mind you I dont have either, but I agre with you Wii and 360 are the way to go.


40 posted on 02/10/2007 5:36:11 PM PST by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com.)
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