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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Government exists above all to keep people safe in their homes and in the streets, he (Giuliani) said, not to redistribute income, run a welfare state, or perform social engineering."

How about keeping unborn children safe in their wombs?

How about not infringing upon a law-abiding citizen's 2nd Amendment rights?

How about not running a virtual POLICE-STATE (nyc) and cooking the crime books in order to ahcieve the appearance of a lower crime rate?

How about not running a virtual welfare state and redistibuting citizens tax dollars to the illegal aliens you allow into our midst?

How about not using social engineering to help promote the homosexual agenda?

How about it RINO-rudy?

125 posted on 02/11/2007 7:17:56 AM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: DocH; Extremely Extreme Extremist
How about not running a virtual POLICE-STATE (nyc) and cooking the crime books in order to ahcieve the appearance of a lower crime rate?

I'm not in favor of Rudy's getting the GOP nod, but I think he's had a bad rap on this particular issue.

One, his de minimis policing ideas work. What he did was to emphasize policing up minor violations in order to give police officers opportunities to make "police contacts" with individuals who had outstanding warrants and needed to be in jail -- and I'm not talking about traffic warrants and unpaid parking tickets. These people were thugs. That's why the defense bar and people like Al Sharpton started screaming "racist" at Giuliani -- because he was jugging people, many of whom were criminals of the minoritarian persuasion.

Two, the business about juicing the crime-report numbers wasn't Rudy's idea. That was a bunch of lieutenants and booking sergeants gaming the system in response to his management initiative. Separate problem, and one that needs to be addressed -- but it shouldn't be held against Giuliani.

133 posted on 02/11/2007 7:27:07 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: DocH
How about keeping unborn children safe in their wombs?

Abortion existed before Giuliani

How about not infringing upon a law-abiding citizen's 2nd Amendment rights?

20,000+ gun control laws, some written by Congressional Republicans, preceded Giuliani. Congressional Republicans let stand big city gun bans rather than taking the matter to the Supremes

How about not running a virtual POLICE-STATE (nyc) and cooking the crime books in order to ahcieve the appearance of a lower crime rate?

I don't give a damn about the rights of hustling squee-gee men, sheisty homeless bums, pimps and hos, and gangsta thugs

How about not running a virtual welfare state and redistibuting citizens tax dollars to the illegal aliens you allow into our midst?

Giuliani cut welfare rolls, which declined faster than the national average. Most of the illegals in NYC weren't Mexican criminals who sneaked over the border

How about not using social engineering to help promote the homosexual agenda?

How about worrying about your life instead of what two guys are doing in the privacy of their own home

166 posted on 02/11/2007 8:05:57 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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