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The Turning Point on Global Warming (McCain and Lieberman Op-Ed Alert)
Boston Globe ^ | Februrary 13, 2007 | Senator John McCain and Senator Joe Lieberman

Posted on 02/13/2007 5:15:20 AM PST by RWR8189

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To: RWR8189

Why can't we have a president of the caliber of Czech President Vaclav Klaus, who calls global warming a "is a false myth and every serious person and scientist says so."

The media has really buried Klaus' thoughts on the "metaphysical ideology" of environmentalism. None of my conservative friends have even heard of him.

How are we even going to win this war if we have politicians so isolated from the truth they are calling a turkey a Rolls Royce.


101 posted on 02/17/2007 12:28:37 PM PST by jonrick46
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Propaganda is not just telling a lie, its also not revealing the truth. There is a news black out on stores that criticize the leftist template. With all the cold and snow happening now, how come there is no store pointing out that maybe the theory of Manmade Global Warming has problems. I am really being to hate LIBERAL and PROGRESSIVES. They are destroying the Garden of Eden.


102 posted on 02/17/2007 6:24:16 PM PST by Exton1
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To: Exton1
For your stack of stuff to use against the enviro-wackos, here is a recent interview of the Czech President:

President of Czech Republic Calls Man-Made Global Warming a 'Myth' - Questions Gore's Sanity
Mon Feb 12 2007 09:10:09 ET

Czech president Vaclav Klaus has criticized the UN panel on global warming, claiming that it was a political authority without any scientific basis.

In an interview with "Hospodárské noviny", a Czech economics daily, Klaus answered a few questions:

Q: IPCC has released its report and you say that the global warming is a false myth. How did you get this idea, Mr President?•

A: It's not my idea. Global warming is a false myth and every serious person and scientist says so. It is not fair to refer to the U.N. panel. IPCC is not a scientific institution: it's a political body, a sort of non-government organization of green flavor. It's neither a forum of neutral scientists nor a balanced group of scientists. These people are politicized scientists who arrive there with a one-sided opinion and a one-sided assignment. Also, it's an undignified slapstick that people don't wait for the full report in May 2007 but instead respond, in such a serious way, to the summary for policymakers where all the "but's" are scratched, removed, and replaced by oversimplified theses.• This is clearly such an incredible failure of so many people, from journalists to politicians. If the European Commission is instantly going to buy such a trick, we have another very good reason to think that the countries themselves, not the Commission, should be deciding about similar issues.•

Q: How do you explain that there is no other comparably senior statesman in Europe who would advocate this viewpoint? No one else has such strong opinions...•

A: My opinions about this issue simply are strong. Other top-level politicians do not express their global warming doubts because a whip of political correctness strangles their voice.

• Q: But you're not a climate scientist. Do you have a sufficient knowledge and enough information?•

A: Environmentalism as a metaphysical ideology and as a worldview has absolutely nothing to do with natural sciences or with the climate. Sadly, it has nothing to do with social sciences either. Still, it is becoming fashionable and this fact scares me. The second part of the sentence should be: we also have lots of reports, studies, and books of climatologists whose conclusions are diametrically opposite.• Indeed, I never measure the thickness of ice in Antarctica. I really don't know how to do it and don't plan to learn it. However, as a scientifically oriented person, I know how to read science reports about these questions, for example about ice in Antarctica. I don't have to be a climate scientist myself to read them. And inside the papers I have read, the conclusions we may see in the media simply don't appear. But let me promise you something: this topic troubles me which is why I started to write an article about it last Christmas. The article expanded and became a book. In a couple of months, it will be published. One chapter out of seven will organize my opinions about the climate change.• Environmentalism and green ideology is something very different from climate science. Various findings and screams of scientists are abused by this ideology.•

Q: How do you explain that conservative media are skeptical while the left-wing media view the global warming as a done deal?•

A: It is not quite exactly divided to the left-wingers and right-wingers. Nevertheless it's obvious that environmentalism is a new incarnation of modern leftism.•

Q: If you look at all these things, even if you were right ...•

A: ...I am right...•

Q: Isn't there enough empirical evidence and facts we can see with our eyes that imply that Man is demolishing the planet and himself?•

A: It's such a nonsense that I have probably not heard a bigger nonsense yet.•

Q: Don't you believe that we're ruining our planet?•

A: I will pretend that I haven't heard you. Perhaps only Mr Al Gore may be saying something along these lines: a sane person can't. I don't see any ruining of the planet, I have never seen it, and I don't think that a reasonable and serious person could say such a thing. Look: you represent the economic media so I expect a certain economical erudition from you. My book will answer these questions. For example, we know that there exists a huge correlation between the care we give to the environment on one side and the wealth and technological prowess on the other side. It's clear that the poorer the society is, the more brutally it behaves with respect to Nature, and vice versa.• It's also true that there exist social systems that are damaging Nature - by eliminating private ownership and similar things - much more than the freer societies. These tendencies become important in the long run. They unambiguously imply that today, on February 8th, 2007, Nature is protected incomparably more than on February 8th ten years ago or fifty years ago or one hundred years ago.• That's why I ask: how can you pronounce the sentence you said? Perhaps if you're unconscious? Or did you mean it as a provocation only? And maybe I am just too naive and I allowed you to provoke me to give you all these answers, am I not? It is more likely that you actually believe what you say.

[English translation from Harvard Professor Lubos Motl]
103 posted on 02/17/2007 11:30:01 PM PST by jonrick46
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"It is not fair to refer to the U.N. panel. IPCC is not a scientific institution: it's a political body, a sort of non-government organization of green flavor."

He says it all, its all political and a way to take powere and grow a world govenment.

104 posted on 02/18/2007 12:30:38 PM PST by Exton1
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What is also behind their agenda is what is called Carbon Trading. There is lots of money going to change hands when this policy takes effect. Wikipedia describes this money shake down scheme: "The idea behind carbon trading is that firms that can reduce their emissions at a low cost will do so and then sell their credits on to firms that are unable to easily reduce emissions. A shortage of credits will drive up the price of credits and make it more profitable for firms to engage in carbon reduction."
105 posted on 02/18/2007 6:14:53 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: sono
Looks like a McCain - Lieberman tie for first place today.....


106 posted on 02/18/2007 6:20:32 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Both McCain and Lieberman, however, do get it on the Iraq War, which is more than I can say about some Republicans.


107 posted on 02/19/2007 4:51:52 AM PST by sono (There are only two exit strategies - One is victory, the other defeat - Joe Lieberman)
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To: Exton1

"He says it all, its all political and a way to take power and grow a world govenment" Bingo!

When a company in the future would face huge fees for their non-C02 compliance, they will lick the boots of their politician overseers and line their pockets with big money. Just watch.


108 posted on 02/21/2007 3:14:57 PM PST by jonrick46
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