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Great Andean glacier 'will melt to nothing by 2012'
Times On Line ^ | February 16, 2007 | Mark Henderson

Posted on 02/16/2007 6:08:30 AM PST by Abathar

The principal glacier of the world’s biggest tropical ice-cap could disappear within five years as a result of global warming, one of the world’s leading glaciologists predicted yesterday.

The imminent demise of the Qori Kalis glacier, the main component of the Quelccaya ice cap in the Peruvian Andes, offers the starkest evidence yet of the effects of climate change, according to Lonnie Thompson, of Ohio State University.

Although scientists have known for decades that Qori Kalis and the other Quelccaya glaciers are melting, new observations indicate that the rate of retreat is increasing, Professor Thompson said. When he visits this summer, he expects to find that the glacier has halved in size since last year, and he believes that Qori Kalis will be gone within five years.

“This widespread retreat of mountain glaciers may be our clearest evidence of global warming as they integrate many climate variables,” Professor Thompson told the American Association for the Advancement of Science conference in San Francisco. “Most importantly, they have no political agenda.”

The Quelccaya ice-cap, covering 17 square miles (44 sq km) in the Cordillera Oriental region of the Peruvian Andes, is the world’s largest tropical ice mass. Qori Kalis, its biggest glacier, has receded by at least 0.6 miles (1.1km) since 1963, when the first formal measurements were made from aerial photographs. The rate of retreat has increased: between 1963 and 1978, it shrank by 6.5 yards (6m) a year, a rate that has now risen tenfold to 65 yards annually.

Professor Thompson predicted six years ago that the celebrated snows of Kilimanjaro would be gone from Africa’s highest mountain by 2015, and he now thinks that that estimate may have been too conservative. He said: “Tropical glaciers are the canaries in the coalmine for our global climate system, as they integrate and respond to most of the key climatological variables — temperature, precipitation, cloudiness, humidity and radiation.”

A critical piece of evidence from almost fifty scientific expeditions to seven shrinking tropical ice-caps points to global warming as the reason for their decline. In all but one case, snowfall has increased as ice volume has fallen. More snow should mean advancing glaciers, unless rising temperatures are melting the extra precipitation and the ice tongues themselves.


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Do they really think we are that stupid to fall for this? The snows of Kilimanjaro are drying up, not melting because the people living on the mountain have slash/burned the entire jungle at its base. All the moisture and humidity is gone from the lowlands around the mountain, so there isn't any water vapor to turn to snow and deposit itself on the mountaintop. They KNOW this is a local event caused completely by changes to the land around the mountain, and yet they try and blame GLOBAL warming for it.

In the Andes they are getting more snow than usual, theories are that the snow is insulating the ice and not allowing it to freeze as deep as it normally would. This again points to percipitation as the main cause, not temperatures. Due to the fact that these things are cyclic, over hundreds of years, (a blink of the eye to the earth) and that there are places where the exact opposite is happeneing this is not a global event but just a local event caused by normal weather patterns.

1 posted on 02/16/2007 6:08:32 AM PST by Abathar
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To: Abathar

If it melts, it will be the "Not So Great Andean Glacier", right?


2 posted on 02/16/2007 6:12:31 AM PST by irishtenor (Save the whales. Collect the whole set.)
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To: Abathar

Alll that lovely freshwater - they better build a resevoir and some aquaducts to catch as much of it as possible!.


3 posted on 02/16/2007 6:13:44 AM PST by Little Ray
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To: irishtenor

SLIP AND SLIDE!


4 posted on 02/16/2007 6:14:55 AM PST by HHKrepublican_2
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To: irishtenor

SLIP AND SLIDE!


5 posted on 02/16/2007 6:14:57 AM PST by HHKrepublican_2
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To: Abathar

The principal glacier of the world’s biggest tropical ice-cap could disappear within five years as a result of global warming, one of the world’s leading glaciologists predicted yesterday.

This is supposed to be a bad thing?

HELLLO! We're still coming out of the last ice age, this is what happenes when ice ages end.


6 posted on 02/16/2007 6:15:15 AM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Abathar

in a word, yes..


7 posted on 02/16/2007 6:15:34 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: Little Ray

I call it the 'snowman theory' . Up here in wisconsin we build snowmen. When the weather warms, they start to melt. As they get smaller, they melt faster. It has nothing to do with global warming, rather it is there is less mass of snow to maintain the cold, so as it shrinks, it melts faster.


8 posted on 02/16/2007 6:16:53 AM PST by milwguy
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Good. Damn thing had it comin'. =)

It killed my father, and beat my mother!

9 posted on 02/16/2007 6:17:21 AM PST by EarthBound (Ex Deo, gratia. Ex astris, scientia (Duncan Hunter in 2008! http://www.gohunter08.com))
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Good, only if that means the right and left coasts of the U.S. go underwater. That would "kill" the democrat base and the survivors would have to live in "fly over country" and be confronted with reality and de-programmed by their new friends and neighbors.


10 posted on 02/16/2007 6:17:52 AM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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I have driven an SUV since the early 70's ~~~~~sob~~~~~~~~ I feel so guilty.
11 posted on 02/16/2007 6:18:13 AM PST by Ditter
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To: HHKrepublican_2

Maybe its not melting, maybe they are chopping it up into icecubes to cool off due to the GLOBAL WARMING.


12 posted on 02/16/2007 6:19:53 AM PST by irishtenor (Save the whales. Collect the whole set.)
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To: Abathar

Finally! I cant wait to have the great Andean Valley back to normal.


13 posted on 02/16/2007 6:19:56 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: Abathar

Lets see more fresh water and warmer climates..why is this a bad thing?


14 posted on 02/16/2007 6:21:03 AM PST by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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What's the big deal? So what if the glaciers melt? It's not like it's never happened before. Glaciers come and go as time marches on. The whole northern hemisphere was once covered by a glacier a mile thick!.............


15 posted on 02/16/2007 6:23:48 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
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Save the Glaciers!

Send them a Ice Cube!

16 posted on 02/16/2007 6:25:12 AM PST by Cold Heat
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Finally! I cant wait to have the great Andean Valley back to normal.

SHHHH!.....that's where Atlantis and the Space people live!.......

17 posted on 02/16/2007 6:25:36 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
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Well! It sounds to me like South America is polluting itself and creating a problem in the Andes. What a bunch of BS.
18 posted on 02/16/2007 6:26:11 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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To: Abathar

I wonder if those glaciers were there when Greenland was a lush farming area inhabited by the Vikings between 1000 & 1300 AD? Or did the glaciers come to the tropic with the mini-ice age that started in 1300?


19 posted on 02/16/2007 6:26:45 AM PST by GreyFriar ( 3rd Armored Division - Spearhead)
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To: Cold Heat

Yeah, he'll fix it!........

20 posted on 02/16/2007 6:27:18 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
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