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Posted on 03/03/2007 9:23:28 AM PST by Calpernia

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To: bluefish
It looks like an obsession with homosexuality, and moreso the most deviant and scary kinds, to me.

The deviant and scary kinds they are: so why is Giuliani Partners listed as a member of the organization that promotes all of it?

61 posted on 03/03/2007 8:04:41 PM PST by cgk
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To: bluefish

Life is a cabaret, ole chum...so come to the cabaret ...


62 posted on 03/03/2007 8:05:35 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: cgk

Oh the ponders.....

The Stonewall Rebellion occurred due to a raid in 1969. It operated without a liquor license, had ties with organized crime (Mafia Owned), and offered scantily clad go-go boys as entertainment.

The STONEWALL Veterans' Association ("S.V.A.") is comprised of the actual, surviving, active veterans of the famous 1969 Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender ("GLBT") Stonewall Rebellion in Greenwich Village, New York, U.S.A.

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63 posted on 03/03/2007 8:07:12 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
Sighing here big time....Recently a parent came up to me and asked why I was making such a fuss over the gays and that movie. She told me gays mean no harm to our children . And that I was crazy. She said I was making a fool of myself. It took much effort not to swat her. I think that too many people are just closing their eyes to everything they don't want to have to deal with. Its just decaying so fast. I don't know where morals are going...I don't understand why more parents aren't worried. I plan to make it clear to every person in our state govt where I stand on these issues. I haven't figured out how yet but I will. I get the feeling they never read their emails or faxes. I know Rudy can go to hell with NAMBLA and Stonewall. I don't think Soros owns Fox news. I know OReilly has mentioned NAMBLA before. We just need to get all the facts together and get this out in a straight forward to the point manner. Then pray it gets someone's interest. We have to think of something...
64 posted on 03/03/2007 8:09:14 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: bluefish

The fact that someone researches a topic doesn't mean they're obsessed. This was some legitimate information that tied back to concerns about Giuliani and his ties to groups advocating homosexual pedophilia. It may just be that Giuliani was working a group that had a lot of money for contributions, but there are also serious concerns about how much influence these groups have with Giuliani. While I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt about these issues, this, combined with his total avoidance of social issues at CPAC have me concerned. It's certainly a lot more persuasive than the continual postings of the two photos of Giuliani in drag.

65 posted on 03/03/2007 8:10:36 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Why yes, I do have a stupid picture for any occasion)
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To: Calpernia; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; wagglebee
Gays, Giuliani, and Catholics

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Bad as the 1995 parade was, it was no match for last year's debacle ("Stonewall at 25," October 1994). On June 26, 1994, scores of fully naked men and women marched in an illegal parade yelling "F___ You" at those on the steps of St. Patrick's Cathedral. They masturbated in the street, pointed their middle fingers at the Cathedral, did satanic dances and dressed as cardinals, nuns, and priests. All of this was done in full view of Police Commissioner William Bratton and the New York City police force. Mayor Rudolph Giuliani watched from above in a helicopter. No one was arrested for anything.

...

...(re the '95 parade...): ..."All the usual suspects were there: drag queens, cross-dressers on Rollerblades, the Butch/Femme Society, the sado-macho brigade in black leather, Men of Discipline and other lovely types. Commercialism was most evident as about a third of the floats were sponsored by various gay bars and clubs. Though there were no signs indicating that the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) was there, the child molesters were listed in the program..."

...There were men dressed as women and there were fairies on stilts. Hundreds of men wore nothing but jock straps, shaking their bodies to the beat of the blaring rock music. Olympic diving champion Greg Louganis was one of the grand marshals and pop singer Cyndi Lauper danced and sang her hit "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun." Strange looking people were everywhere and often it was difficult to tell whether it was a man or a woman, and in some cases it appeared that it was both. And yes, some of the girls did bare their breasts (a few of them apparently spray painted their chests), but in all fairness it must be said that most of the girls managed to keep their clothes on. The police carried yellow blankets to cover the girls up but decided against using them. Following tradition, no one was arrested.

There's a fat and ugly guy who shows up every year dressed as the pope carrying a sign "My church organ is bigger than yours." He was there again this year. There was one car that passed by with a string of unrelated four letter words and sexual terms on it. Some marchers wore shirts with various vulgarities inscribed on them. There were large pictures of men performing oral sex and there were several examples of men simulating oral sex live atop the floats. The latter exhibition led Norm Siegel of the ACLU to declare "I love watching the First Amendment in action," thus demonstrating how far we've come in our understanding of free speech.

No Gay Pride Parade would be complete without a little Catholic bashing. It should be noted that the place where the march began, 52nd Street, is not a major cross street, making it all the more conspicuous what the intent was in starting there. If Catholic bashing wasn't central to the parade, then surely the request to start the march just south of the Cathedral would have been granted. Indeed, when Janice Thom, the co- chairman of the parade's sponsors, Heritage of Pride, was asked to comment on my statement that her group had deliberately targeted St. Patrick's, she responded briskly, "That's an interesting idea."

The most flagrant anti-Catholicism came from Catholic Ladies for Choice. In this group, there were gays and lesbians dressed as nuns carrying coat hangers and lesbians dressed as nuns carrying tambourines. Most incredible was the gay man who wore a black bra and a black jock strap with a huge set of rosary beads wrapped around his otherwise naked body. There was also someone dressed as the pope with a banner that read, "The Catholic Church, a history of murder, lies, censorship, oppression, and hypocrisy."

And what did Mayor Giuliani have to say about all this? He called it a "very dignified parade."


I guess I'll stop pinging y'all when I stop tripping over my jaw.
66 posted on 03/03/2007 8:13:14 PM PST by cgk
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To: Richard Kimball
There are national security issues too since this group funds the anti war movement.

Stonewall's AntiWar movement funded by International A.N.S.W.E.R.

Stonewall Warriors logo


Stonewall Warriors A.N.S.W.E.R.
31 Germania St.
Jamaica Plain, MA 02130
Phone: 617-522-6626
Fax: 617-983-3836

Next Meeting
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67 posted on 03/03/2007 8:17:44 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: cgk

Amazing how much respect Mr. Law & Order has for militant homosexuals who took to the streets to attack the NYPD in 1969.

The more I read about this "Stonewall Rebellion" he's so fond of, the more the idea of him leading my party chills me to the bone. There's no way I could even cast a gun-to-the-head vote for this guy, which I was beginning to consider in recent days. Shame on me for that.


68 posted on 03/03/2007 8:18:30 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (2/25/07. Never Forget.)
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To: cgk

That is disgusting.


69 posted on 03/03/2007 8:18:42 PM PST by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: cgk

I should have read the post before I responded. I was still on the Stonewall stuff.

This just gets worse and worse and worse...

Wow. Just wow.


70 posted on 03/03/2007 8:21:14 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (2/25/07. Never Forget.)
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To: bluefish
Do you have children? What is going on in the schools with the Gays is downright alarming. The people who are pushing the gay agenda are serious about pushing their gay issues on our children. If we vote in pro gay officials it will get worse. As it is in NJ it is very alarming. I don't want my child taught its ok to be gay. I want her taught the skills she needs in life. Not sexual preferences. If they can't teach about God then IMO they surely ought to stop the gay bs. I guess I do have an obsession with this as I am anti gay. I wish they would get back in the closet. You want to be gay fine, just keep it to yourself. I really see no need for all these parades and gay cruises, gay Disney week etc. Why do they have to push their gayness on people who aren't?
71 posted on 03/03/2007 8:23:53 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

There's no way I could even cast a gun-to-the-head vote for this guy, which I was beginning to consider in recent days. Shame on me for that

Shame on me too! I was thinking well he did a good job cleaning NYC up and then after 99/11.....I was thinking maybe he would be good, well after reading all this all I can say it that Rudy will never get my vote. And I will be sure to try to sway anyone who likes him into reading this.


72 posted on 03/03/2007 8:31:32 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: Kevmo

See this whole thread


73 posted on 03/03/2007 8:32:33 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

One word, disgusting !


74 posted on 03/03/2007 8:40:39 PM PST by CORedneck
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To: Calpernia
The Stonewall Rebellion occurred due to a raid in 1969. It operated without a liquor license, had ties with organized crime (Mafia Owned), and offered scantily clad go-go boys as entertainment.

Oh yes... I'm sifting through SmokingGun archives and NYT & Newsday articles, as well as LE mafia write-ups. Here's what I've found so far:

Rudy's (1st) cousin Lewis D'Avanzo (aka Steve the Blonde) was a gay mafia associate who was gunned down in a firefight with the FBI in '77. (Rudy knew this cousin enough to invite him to his 1st wedding...)

Which mafia family Steve worked for I wasn't able to nail down, though it appears to be Gambino as a Gambino enforcer was his 'partner.' Also, D'Avanzo's son was associated with the Gambino family.

It was the Gambino family who apparently owned the original Stonewall Inn where underage boys were on the menu.

75 posted on 03/03/2007 9:14:51 PM PST by cgk
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To: Calpernia
I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights, Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded. Source: CNN.com, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999 http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Rudy_Giuliani_Abortion.htm

ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES (November 14, 2006)

RUDY GIULIANI (R), FORMER MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY: I'm pro- choice. I'm pro-gay rights.

KING: Giuliani supports a woman's right to an abortion, and back in 1999, he opposed a federal ban on late-term abortions.

GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.

KING: Immigration could be another presidential landmine. Back in 1996, Mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.

JEFFREY: He took the side of illegal immigrants in New York City against the Republican Congress.

KING: Giuliani opposes same-sex marriage but as mayor, he supported civil unions and extending health and other benefits to gay couples. He also supported the assault weapons ban and other gun control measures opposed by the National Rifle Association.

GIULIANI: I'm in favor of gun control. I'm pro-choice.

Republican Big-Wigs Support Pro-Abortion Event in NY

Pro-abortion Governor George Pataki and New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who also supports unrestricted abortion, are co-chairs of the 2000 Choice Award Presentation to be held on May 30 at the St. Regis Hotel in New York City. The event is sponsored by the Republican Pro-Choice Coalition, a group that is campaigning for the removal of the pro-life plank from the Republican National Platform.


http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200503010743.asp


76 posted on 03/03/2007 11:52:37 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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77 posted on 03/03/2007 11:53:06 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Calpernia
Bookmarker.

The right information and just the right time...THANK!
78 posted on 03/04/2007 5:29:53 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: Calpernia

Excellent work as usual, and ahead of your time! :)


79 posted on 03/04/2007 9:57:29 AM PST by cgk
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To: Calpernia
Hmmmm, I wonder why the Progressive Left supports this group? Is there something about initial Marxism that attracts these people?
80 posted on 03/04/2007 10:22:29 AM PST by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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