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107 posted on 03/09/2007 8:57:56 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have two speeds: "graze" and "stampede".)
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Great news...and have a look at this from an AP story from few months ago. Maybe Silberman's a Freeper.

Thursday, Dec. 7, 2006 9:08 p.m. EST

Scope of 2nd Amendment Questioned

In a case that could shape firearms laws nationwide, attorneys for the District of Columbia argued Thursday that the Second Amendment right to bear arms applies only to militias, not individuals.

The city defended as constitutional its long-standing ban on handguns, a law that some gun opponents have advocated elsewhere. Civil liberties groups and pro-gun organizations say the ban in unconstitutional.

At issue in the case before a federal appeals court is whether the Second Amendment right to "keep and bear arms" applies to all people or only to "a well regulated militia." The Bush administration has endorsed individual gun-ownership rights but the Supreme Court has never settled the issue.

If the dispute makes it to the high court, it would be the first case in nearly 70 years to address the amendment's scope. The court disappointed gun owner groups in 2003 when it refused to take up a challenge to California's ban on assault weapons.

In the Washington, D.C., case, a lower-court judge told six city residents in 2004 that they did not have a constitutional right to own handguns. The plaintiffs include residents of high-crime neighborhoods who want guns for protection.

Courts have upheld bans on automatic weapons and sawed-off shotguns but this case is unusual because it involves a prohibition on all pistols. Voters passed a similar ban in San Francisco last year but a judge ruled it violated state law. The Washington case is not clouded by state law and hinges directly on the Constitution.

"We interpret the Second Amendment in military terms," said Todd Kim, the District's solicitor general, who told the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit that the city would also have had the authority to ban all weapons.

"Show me anybody in the 19th century who interprets the Second Amendment the way you do," Judge Laurence Silberman said. "It doesn't appear until much later, the middle of the 20th century."

Of the three judges, Silberman was the most critical of Kim's argument and noted that, despite the law, handguns were common in the District.

Silberman and Judge Thomas B. Griffith seemed to wrestle, however, with the meaning of the amendment's language about militias. If a well-regulated militia is no longer needed, they asked, is the right to bear arms still necessary?

"That's quite a task for any court to decide that a right is no longer necessary," Alan Gura, an attorney for the plaintiffs, replied. "If we decide that it's no longer necessary, can we erase any part of the Constitution?"


142 posted on 03/09/2007 9:23:37 AM PST by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: Joe Brower

It's about time that the myth that the militia are the only ones the 2nd Amendment applies to, is dispelled.

It also kills the myth about it being a state Right only ~ the people are all of the people.


322 posted on 03/09/2007 11:34:18 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Joe Brower
Quick, pinch me. I must be dreaming!
341 posted on 03/09/2007 11:49:08 AM PST by philman_36
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To: Joe Brower
This is a serious development. I heard about it on Rush's show at work. Made my day better!

BTW, for a guy who personally has little or no interest in guns, Rush gets the second amendment just fine. I wish the politicians would!

453 posted on 03/09/2007 1:18:02 PM PST by LibKill (RudycRAT is lying his way to power. Look at his record. He's 100% DemocRAT.)
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To: Joe Brower

Excellent!!

Thanks for the ping!


540 posted on 03/09/2007 2:24:34 PM PST by sneakers
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To: Joe Brower; All
This is great news, and the decision is a good read. But here is a turd in the punchbowl:

Reasonable restrictions also might be thought consistent with a “well regulated Militia.” The registration of firearms gives the government information as to how many people would be armed for militia service if called up. Reasonable firearm proficiency testing would both promote public safety and produce better candidates for military service.

If they want people eligable for the militia to submit their names and contact info, that is one thing. They don't need an inventory of your equipment.

Also, they may want proficiency testing for membership in the "organized" militia, but not as a condition to own "arms".

685 posted on 03/09/2007 8:40:46 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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