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Bright sun, warm Earth. Coincidence?
National Post ^
| Lorne Gunter
Posted on 03/12/2007 2:54:40 AM PDT by Clive
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posted on
03/12/2007 2:54:42 AM PDT
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Clive
To: Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; Cannoneer No. 4; ...
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posted on
03/12/2007 2:55:09 AM PDT
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Clive
To: Clive
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posted on
03/12/2007 2:59:08 AM PDT
by
roaddog727
(BullS##t does not get bridges built)
To: Clive
Mr. Abdussamatov concedes manmade gasses may have made "a small contribution to the warming in recent years, but it cannot compete with the increase in solar irradiance." Exactly.
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posted on
03/12/2007 3:01:58 AM PDT
by
libertylover
(Liberals: Trying to convert the U.S. into a country the Founding Father's wouldn't recognize.)
To: Clive
I haven't left my SUV idling on any of those planets or moons. Honest, I haven't. well, somebody obviously has. duh. that makes more sense than actually considering that the SUN might have something to do with global warming.
;P
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posted on
03/12/2007 3:06:48 AM PDT
by
ZinGirl
To: Clive
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posted on
03/12/2007 3:34:06 AM PDT
by
midway
To: Clive
Maybe we can strap all the SUV's together on a tether tied to the earth and move the earth a few more feet away from the sun.
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posted on
03/12/2007 3:41:39 AM PDT
by
Raycpa
To: Clive
What a bunch of tripe. The sun makes things warmer here on earth and on other plantets??? C'mon, that's quite a stretch, don't you think? Why, just about every climatologist says humans make earth warm and those who don't are going to have their license revoked, as it should be. Global warming is caused by the sun?!? Hahahahaha....too funny.
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posted on
03/12/2007 4:34:35 AM PDT
by
GBA
(God Bless America!)
To: Clive
Someone needs to send this writer to a political reeducation camp (read: an American university).
It is just sooooooo boring for a pierced, tattooed, self-mutilated DUer living in their parents' basement or in a cereal-box flat somewhere in the suburbs to believe that the huge, unpredictable nuclear reaction known as the sun could be responsible. It's much easier and seductive to blame that nice SUV that dwarfs their old Dodge Neon.
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posted on
03/12/2007 4:50:18 AM PDT
by
relictele
To: Clive; xcamel; GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; ...
Canada ping.
Please send me a FReepmail to get on or off this Canada ping list.
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posted on
03/12/2007 4:52:50 AM PDT
by
fanfan
("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
To: Clive
The article conflates two phenomenon, the increasing solar irradiance that could also warm other planets and the variations in magnetic activity as measured by the sunspots. The increasing irradiance is very slow and would cause only a fraction of a degree rise here (and other planets) over hundreds of years. The magnetic activity could influence earth's weather and climate by modulating cosmic rays or some other mechanism, but it is doubtful that the same mechanisms would apply to other planets. The other issue is that earth's weather and climate lacks any significant 22 year cycle to match up to the sunspot cycle.
In short, the big changes in sunspots are interesting and could be significant, especially for the little ice age. The correlation of our climate with other planets is weak and probably has little to do with the sun.
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posted on
03/12/2007 4:52:54 AM PDT
by
palmer
(Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
To: GBA
No its all humans fault I tell you. The second red spot was caused by the Galileo probe, it burned up and released toxic something or other into the atmosphere. And Mars is being warmed up by those two rovers driving around for the last three years. And don't tell me that they are electrics, because you should know by now that facts have no place in any argument involving global warming.
Wow its fun to play liberal isn't it :)
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posted on
03/12/2007 5:04:13 AM PDT
by
GonzoGOP
(There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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posted on
03/12/2007 5:04:45 AM PDT
by
xcamel
(Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
To: GonzoGOP
Bush used his time machine (built by Haliburton) to make the sun hotter...
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posted on
03/12/2007 5:09:56 AM PDT
by
swatbuznik
((Hunter '08 --apostrophes optional))
To: midway
OMG!! I just watched and downloaded this. What an amazing show!!!
ALL FReepers would benefit from watching this show.
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posted on
03/12/2007 5:10:06 AM PDT
by
Blueflag
(Res ipsa loquitor)
To: Clive
And I swear, I haven't left my SUV idling on any of those planets or moons. Honest, I haven't. Dick Cheney and the Halliburton board have been taking secret trips to Jupiter, eating beans and farting in the Jovian atmosphere.
To: Clive
Does the "Swindle" movie feature the solar proof?
To: Clive
Thanks for the excellent post....I'm forwarding this to Friends ;-)
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posted on
03/12/2007 5:20:50 AM PDT
by
Halgr
(Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
To: palmer
The correlation of our climate with other planets is weak and probably has little to do with the sun.LOLOL!
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posted on
03/12/2007 5:26:15 AM PDT
by
fanfan
("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
To: Clive
Oh! The author shouldn't confuse the argument with facts like that! ALGORE will have him discredited.
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posted on
03/12/2007 5:27:52 AM PDT
by
wolfcreek
(Semi-Conservatism Won't Cut It)
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