But Giuliani has a fighting chance. Winning PA would be an important win for Republicans -- it would improve the chances of winning the presidency significantly.
And poll after poll show that Giuliani is the only one who can win it for Republicans.
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There is no major difference between Rino Rudy and Hitlary aon most issues.
Rudy would return the republican party to it's REAL DESTINY, that of limited government, personal responsibility and protecting the country.
Bull.
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Four points? What's the margin of error?
the correct approach for adults is:
fight like hell to get the right candidate on the ballot to represent the gop
then vote for the nominated party in overwhelming numbers in the general election
if its giuliani, then its giuliani
anyone who advocates a different approach is just another political enemy - most likely a liberal lurker pathetically attempting to foment dissent
I will check back in six months and see where Rudy is in the polls. Might mean something at that point.
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"Giuliani is Clear Favourite in Pennsylvania"
Exsqueeze me? What's this...?
46 per cent of Pennsylvania would support the former New York City mayor, while 42 per cent would vote for ... Hillary.Margin of error is 2.8 per cent.
So with the MOE Rudy could only have 43% and Hillary could have 45%.
Which means .. Rudy is NOT the 'Clear Favourite. It's a statistical tie.
(sheesh, how much is Rudy paying for these phony polls?)
Last night, Fair Opinion posted a thread that asserted that Thompson was a member of a bizarre Chruch of Christ that was an offshoot of mormonism. He had the wrong Church of Christ. He linked to some cheap web page, and ignored the copious amount of information on the web that made it clear he was wrong. He refused to acknowledge he was wrong or apologize. When challendged by Torie, he did the "But there is nothing wrong with being Mormom, so who cares?" routine. Luckily for him the thread was pulled. The point is, he has zero credibility or integrity, so don't trust or believe anything he says.
There hasn't been a "Republican" like Rudy - ever!
And that's not a compliment.
Yeah right. The campaign hasn't even started yet, wait for the op research to kick in. Rudy will drop like a rock.
These polls are meaningless, as they are not taken in the heat of a campaign, with charge and counter charge flying, with nonstop political advertising invading everyone's homes, and with daily wall-to-wall media coverage of every campaign stop.
Giuliani supporters will be sorely disappointed when, next year, they discover that Giuliani (as I strongly suspect) that Giuliani is incapable of winning any state that Bush lost. Only it will be even more difficult for him, as Giuliani will have to find a way to win 60 million + votes without the help of several million conservatives, who will sit out the election.
Since when is 4 points a clear win? What's the margin of error on this poll? I supstect 4 points is more like a dead heat.
Archives of Rudolph W. Giuliani, 107th Mayor
Opening Remarks to the N.A.R.A.L. "Champions of Choice" Lunch
The Yale Club, Thursday, April 5th, 2001
As Delivered
Thank you very much for inviting me to say a few words of welcome. This event shows that people of different political parties and different political thinking can unite in support of choice. In doing so, we are upholding a distinguished tradition that began in our city starting with the work of Margaret Sanger and the movement for reproductive freedom that began in the early decades of the 20th century.
As a Republican who supports a woman's right to choose, it is particularly an honor to be here. And I would like to explain, just for one moment, why I believe being in favor of choice is consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party. In fact, it might be more consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party. Because the Republican Party stands for the idea that you have to restore more freedom of choice, more opportunity, more opportunity for people to make their own choices rather than the government dictating those choices. Republicans stand for lower taxation because we believe that people can make better choices with their money than the government will make for them, and that ultimately frees the economy and produces more political freedom. We believe that, yes, government is important, but that the private sector is actually more important in solving our problems.
So it is consistent with that philosophy to believe that in the most personal and difficult choices that a woman has to make with regard to a pregnancy, those choices should be made based on that person's conscience and that person's way of thinking and feeling. The government shouldn't dictate that choice by making it a crime or making it illegal.
I think that's actually a much more consistent position. Many Republicans support that position, but you don't hear that as often. For example, in a recent poll by American Viewpoint, 65 percent of Republicans supported changing the plank in the Republican platform that calls for a constitutional ban on abortion. That's 6.5 out of every 10 Republicans. And over 80 percent of Republicans believe that the decision with regard to an abortion should be made by a woman, her doctor, and her family rather than dictated by the government.
[Applause]
In any case, I just wanted you to know that many of my fellow Republicans stand with you on this issue. So I thank you, I thank NARAL for taking the lead in establishing freedom of choice for all of us, and as the Mayor of New York City, I thank you for being here in New York City.
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http://www.nyc.gov/html/rwg/html/2001b/champlunch.html
How can a poll at this stage of the game be an accurate predictor of what will happen once the Democrat candidate starts campaigning?
One thing some of you forget is Rudy is a politician and doesn't give a $hit about you.He will happily help usher in the Norte Americano Union, but on the other hand, any of them are going to do it.