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1994 Rudy: "I will work as hard to protect.. right to believe in God ..or not to believe in God."
The Brody File ^ | April 12, 2007 | David Brody thebrodyfile@gmail.com

Posted on 04/12/2007 8:22:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

1994 Rudy: "I will work as hard to protect someone's right to believe in God as he or she sees fit -- or not to believe in God."

The Brody File has dug up a Rudy quote from the past that makes for an interesting discussion. In a 1994 New York Times article, Rudy said this:

"As the Mayor of New York City, I will work as hard to protect someone's right to believe in God as he or she sees fit -- or not to believe in God -- because I realize that my right to practice my religion depends completely on my commitment to defend someone else's right to practice theirs, or to practice no religion at all."

The article goes on to mention his views on Catholicism.

"Mr. Giuliani, who as a young man once considered joining the priesthood, noted that many Catholics today "feel that in some intellectual or quasi-intellectual circles, they are demeaned." He said he had also heard Catholics say that "Catholic-bashing has become part of the dogma of what they regard as the politically correct." And he said: "Indeed, I do detect among some who accept the most recent intellectual fads a disdain for those who share in the more orthodox faiths, whether Christian or Jewish or Muslim. In my humble opinion -- and this is meant as an observation, not a challenge -- that disdain emerges from an almost subconscious conclusion that to believe in God too fervently betrays a certain intellectual infirmity." He compared such a view with the "difficult time that some believers have in drawing the line between belief in dogma and respect for those who disagree." He called for believers and unbelievers alike to avoid "the arrogance of having no doubts."

Read the rest of the article here. It's interesting to hear Rudy talk about his faith. Clearly, there is a deeper story there. It makes me wonder what his upbringing was like and how his Catholic faith helped shaped who he is today. It's something worth exploring. I interview Giuliani next week. Maybe I'll pursue this with him. Got questions for him? Email them to me.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; giuliani; politics; religion
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To: GenuineChocolateFace

LOL!!!!!


121 posted on 04/12/2007 9:55:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: wagglebee

I know all about historical trends. I remember when the person elected president was always the candidate who won the New Hampshire Primary, too.


122 posted on 04/12/2007 9:55:48 AM PDT by GenuineChocolateFace
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To: dirtboy
The problem is with your argument is that the person you are supporting has a huge number of liberal positions and past actions that, if they were in a Democrat, you would oppose instead of spin away.

Then you should be thrilled with every opportunity I present to plead your case.

123 posted on 04/12/2007 9:56:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: GenuineChocolateFace

Did you actually know the last two that I posted? Because, I just did the research last week and I’ve never seen them talked about anywhere.


124 posted on 04/12/2007 9:57:22 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: GenuineChocolateFace

The May 3rd debate on MSNBC should be telling (Hunter, Giuliani, Paul, Romney, Gilmore, McCain, Brownback, Huckabee, and T. Thompson will be in attendance, IIRC). That’ll be where the wheat will be separated from the chaffe.


125 posted on 04/12/2007 9:58:39 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Definitely a MUST SEE event.


126 posted on 04/12/2007 9:59:35 AM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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To: wagglebee

It’s interesting, trendwise, certainly. I wasn’t aware of those, no. But like I said, historical trends aren’t written in stone - Bill Clinton’s disasterous showing in New Hampshire in 92 is a good example.


127 posted on 04/12/2007 9:59:50 AM PDT by GenuineChocolateFace
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
The May 3rd debate on MSNBC should be telling (Hunter, Giuliani, Paul, Romney, Gilmore, McCain, Brownback, Huckabee, and T. Thompson will be in attendance, IIRC). That’ll be where the wheat will be separated from the chaffe.

Well, at least none of them are too scared to go on MSNBC ;)

128 posted on 04/12/2007 10:00:47 AM PDT by GenuineChocolateFace
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To: GenuineChocolateFace

Well said.


129 posted on 04/12/2007 10:03:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I believe most people have doubts. To say differently says we're not human.

Many or most Christian believers I know well would tell you they have no doubts. Are they liars (maybe just "misguided")? Are they arrogant?

Regardless, I think it's safe to say the martyrs had no doubts. And yes, I would argue such faith is inhuman. "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God." (Eph. 2:8)

130 posted on 04/12/2007 10:04:11 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
People that threaten expulsion from FR because they disagree with you on something make themselves look bad.

Except that wasn't what was being discussed. You said this:

Since when did this stop being a discussion board and start being the land of the lock-step?

and I said this:

Did you ever object to JimRob tossing liberal Dems off FR when they tried to post here?

In other words, if a pro-abort, anti-gun gay rights liberal tried to post here this time last year, you would have no problem with that viewpoint not being allowed.

But when YOUR GUY has those viewpoints, all of a sudden you're calling FR "lock-step". And that is pure hypocrisy.

131 posted on 04/12/2007 10:05:17 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: GenuineChocolateFace

Like how “John Hillabama” refused to appear on a FOX NEWS debate. ;D


132 posted on 04/12/2007 10:06:11 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Then you should be thrilled with every opportunity I present to plead your case.

Not exactly.

It gets tiresome dealing with the same discredited Rudy talking points time and time again. Admit it - he's a pro-abort, gun-grabbing liberal pubbie. Then at least the discussion could be about whether that is a good direction for the GOP to be doing.

133 posted on 04/12/2007 10:07:00 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; dirtboy
Forgive me.

Maybe she meant this one for you, dirtboy.

134 posted on 04/12/2007 10:07:32 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Zactly like that :)


135 posted on 04/12/2007 10:07:44 AM PDT by GenuineChocolateFace
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I will work hard to vote for Rudy’s opponent.


136 posted on 04/12/2007 10:12:46 AM PDT by usslsm51
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To: usslsm51
I will work hard to vote for Rudy’s opponent.

Before or after the primaries?

137 posted on 04/12/2007 10:14:19 AM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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To: usslsm51
I will work hard to vote for Rudy’s opponent.

Hussein Obama, Hillery, or SilkyBoy? ;)

138 posted on 04/12/2007 10:14:26 AM PDT by GenuineChocolateFace
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
...But, if anyone says it's arrogant to have no doubts about one's own beliefs, I'd have to say he's wrong.

I believe most people have doubts. To say differently says we're not human.

Not human, or in denial.

139 posted on 04/12/2007 10:18:03 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: LimberJim

Impressed? How, favorably or unfavorably?


140 posted on 04/12/2007 10:18:18 AM PDT by usslsm51
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