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Young, Gay Christians, On a Bumpy Bus Ride
The Washington Post ^ | 4/13/07 | Hanna Rosin

Posted on 04/13/2007 5:58:24 AM PDT by 4BoysMom

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To: weegee

We are all sinners, and some of the greatest saints were indeed first some of the greatest sinners.

The problem with people like this is not that they are sinners, but they relish in their sin and are completely unashamed of them.

If a person has sinful desires, and being human falls to them from time to time, that is life. We all do it in one form or another... none of us walk without sin. However when you fail not only to fight the urges, but to even accept that your sinful urges and tendencies are not wrong, but are right and should be accepted as so by God and Others... well, then you definately have fallen off the deep end.

I don’t agree with some of the attacks these folks have had to endure... IE God does not love you.. God created us all, and he loves us all.... but God’s love is an eternal love, not the touchy feely love that most of the drive through theologians propose today.

It is our duty to point out the sin of others, if we know they do not know what they are doing is sinful, or else their sins will be ours to bear at judgement. But if we know they know what they are doing is sinful, or we tell them it is and they continue on the path anyway, their sins are fully their own, we bare no responsibility for them.

The adulterer is tempted, and yes, far too often falls to temptation... however I don’t think anyone would be condoning or congratulating a busload of adulterers running around saying they are not sinners, and protesting anyone who said otherwise.


41 posted on 04/13/2007 7:48:25 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: 4BoysMom

Sad, isn’t it? They’ve fallen for the devil’s subtle tactics and they, even though they may be christians, will never receive God’s blessings which He has in store for those who love and obey Him. Pray for them.


42 posted on 04/13/2007 7:51:13 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: joebuck

I call it ‘smorgasbording.’


43 posted on 04/13/2007 7:52:38 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: weegee

There is no such thing as a gay christian.

Those who believe it is possible, simply don’t understand Biblical Christianity.


44 posted on 04/13/2007 7:53:55 AM PDT by 4lifeandliberty
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To: jude24

A far greater calling would be to try to open the minds of students at the vast majority of American colleges and graduate schools where the aggressively secular and socialistic agenda is force-fed to them, without opposition or alternative points of view.

Places like PHC and Regent are very much within the older and proud tradition of looking at all views. It is the 99.9% of the other institutions that need to open their minds to alternative and competing views.


45 posted on 04/13/2007 7:54:51 AM PDT by ConservativeDude (")
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To: Always Right

My own personal belief is that yes, they can be saved and still go to heaven even if they are gay, BUT God cannot release His blessings on them for an abundant life here on earth if they keep going in this lifestyle. They’ll miss what God has for them on earth. Very sad.


46 posted on 04/13/2007 7:55:50 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: AmericaUnited

Don’t forget the stripper who claimed she was born again.


47 posted on 04/13/2007 7:56:36 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: outofstyle

They have, it’s called “Episcopalian.”


48 posted on 04/13/2007 7:58:19 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

Was it in Springfield, MO?


49 posted on 04/13/2007 7:59:15 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: 4BoysMom

What a biased article. The college has “grand political ambitions” but the gays are “freedom riders”.

Men love darkness rather than light, because their deeds are evil.


50 posted on 04/13/2007 8:17:14 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Marysecretary
My own personal belief is that yes, they can be saved and still go to heaven even if they are gay, BUT God cannot release His blessings on them for an abundant life here on earth if they keep going in this lifestyle. They’ll miss what God has for them on earth. Very sad.

Also living a life full of sin will eventually lead you away God, and to the point where you no longer accept Jesus as your savior. Most gays do in fact renounce religion.

51 posted on 04/13/2007 9:04:28 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Marysecretary
My own personal belief is that yes, they can be saved and still go to heaven even if they are gay

So people with big time unrepentant sin go to heaven but just don't get "extra" blessings here on earth. Good God, that's the same nicey/nice, "All Dog's Go to Heaven" theology that's damning these people.

52 posted on 04/13/2007 9:10:38 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: 4BoysMom

The article clearly attempts to pose an agenda by comparing homosexuality to the civil rights movement. The thing is God makes people in a variety of colors, and there is nothing sinful regarding skin color. God does not make man sinful. Man chose sin. This is a sexual behavior choice that they are promoting, and it is contrary to the Lord’s will. It’s not possible to be a practicing homosexual and Christian any more that it’s possible to be a practicing stripper or adulterer and Christian. The Lord will forgive, but they have to be sorry and vow to turn away from sin.


53 posted on 04/13/2007 9:15:12 AM PDT by Pinkbell (Whack-A-Lib = Improved version of Whack-A-Mole)
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To: Always Right

Yes, you’re right, as Always. That certainly can happen.


54 posted on 04/13/2007 2:21:32 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: AmericaUnited

Well, if you believe that once (truly) saved and always saved, then homosexuals make it. I never fully understand what God wants to do with people who continually sin. I know that blaspheming the Holy Spirit is the only thing that keeps you out of heaven. Perhaps this falls into that category. I do know that continually sinning keeps God’s blessings from you. That’s all I’m saying.


55 posted on 04/13/2007 2:24:04 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: 4BoysMom
The Fruits of the Spirit:
Love
Joy
Peace
Patience
Kindness
Goodness
Fathfulness
Gentleness
Self-Control

I don't see "Gayness."

56 posted on 04/14/2007 6:40:55 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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To: 4BoysMom
"Young, Gay Christians, On a Bumpy Bus Ride"

They're hardly Christians. In fact, I'll bet they're Episcopalians.

57 posted on 04/14/2007 8:33:12 AM PDT by fwdude
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