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To: Bernard

The NY Times has a flash graphic recreating the accident:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/13/nyregion/20070413_CORZINE_GRAPHIC.html?_r=1&oref=login

I can’t attest to its accuracy, but it shows the red pickup entirely on the shoulder before the white vehicle overtakes it. If that’s the case, there’s no way one could say the red truck wasn’t at fault. He left the highway and then returned with no warning. It doesn’t matter whether he was surprised by a sign in his path on the shoulder...he’s expected to scope out and anticipate such obstacles BEFORE he pulls onto the shoulder. According to this recreation he was at fault and should be cited.

The graphic shows something else I hadn’t realized. Corzine’s vehicle did a 270 degree turn...TOWARD the direction of the impact. That is, the SUV rotates right-— toward the center lane-—and continues for 3/4 of a circle until it comes to a stop facing the left guard rail. If a vehicle is struck on its front passenger-side (right) bumper, wouldn’t you expect it to rotate left? It sounds like Corzine’s driver overcompensated after the impact and lost control when he turned his wheels into the “skid”.


47 posted on 04/15/2007 5:50:42 AM PDT by Timeout (I hate MediaCrats! ......and trial lawyers.)
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To: Timeout
Corzine’s vehicle did a 270 degree turn...TOWARD the direction of the impact. That is, the SUV rotates right-— toward the center lane-—and continues for 3/4 of a circle until it comes to a stop facing the left guard rail. If a vehicle is struck on its front passenger-side (right) bumper, wouldn’t you expect it to rotate left? It sounds like Corzine’s driver overcompensated after the impact and lost control when he turned his wheels into the “skid”.

I had the same take. The physics don't add up.

51 posted on 04/15/2007 6:08:52 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Timeout
Yes, I once saw a ford SUV roll after going into a simple skid. Once they break loose in a skid, any thing can happen.
You loose control completely.

It was directly in front of me on a dry road. The truck flipped on its side as I drove around it to avoid it. I stopped. The driver opened his passenger door toward the sky to get out. it was amazing.

We were only doing 20 MPH when he finally rolled - tipped. He struggled for 5 seconds trying to gain control, but could not.

53 posted on 04/15/2007 6:16:40 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Timeout

I disagree with your comment. Remember, the motorcade was in the left lane with its lights flashing. Lights flashing means all cars are supposed to pull to the right. If the Red pickup pulls to the right, the white truck should also pull to the right, NOT speed up to pass the car that pulled over.

By pulling past, the white truck cut off the red truck’s only avenue of escape from an accident, while not appropriately pulling over and slowing down.

I see this all the time. A few cars correctly pull over and slow when they see flashing lights, and other drivers speed up to pass those who pulled over.


83 posted on 04/15/2007 8:13:51 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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